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But even their shipping (with Prime too!) is getting slower and slower. Prime's selling point used to be free 2 day shipping. Shipping is still "free" but many

by jrs235 4y ago

But even their shipping (with Prime too!) is getting slower and slower. Prime's selling point used to be free 2 day shipping. Shipping is still "free" but many items take 4 days (or more now).

zip1234 4y ago
Do you live in a city?
- kennend3 4y ago
  There are times i still use amazon and i actually bought a few items on Tuesday. Amazon's delivery date is friday? Want to guess where amazon's distribution warehouse is? A few blocks away from me. The point you are attempting to make is unclear. If the distribution hub is within walking distance from me, why does it take days to ship?
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  - PaulHoule 4y ago
    I am sure your congressman gets same day or next day shipping in DC, though.
  - mbreese 4y ago
    You’re assuming that the product you ordered is at that warehouse. It probably isn’t. They can’t store all products at all locations. Even if that distribution center ends up being the shipment origination site, the product still probably had to move within the Amazon network. Some of those things will move within the Amazon network, some with external (trackable) carriers (UPS/FedEx). And some things has restrictions on the method of transport. If there is a lithium battery anywhere in the device, it travels by ground. Also — if you’re in the US, today is a holiday and nothing will move. So today and yesterday had/has limited movement between distribution centers. And as we get closer to Christmas, the entire network will start to approach saturation. There are many reasons why things don’t always ship as fast as you’d like them to.
    - kennend3 4y ago
      Speaking of assumptions lets review yours for a moment. 1) I am not assuming the products are from different warehouses. I know this for a fact. Look at my other post and i stated one item is being shipped from a warehouse ~120 KM away. I will guess the rest is from the local warehouse? Once amazon updates the shipping details (probably friday AM) it will show me where it came from.. 2) I'm in Canada and it is not a holiday here so it is unclear why "today and yesterday had/has limited movement between distribution centers." 3) Amazon Canada rarely uses other carriers anymore. I cant tell you when the last time anyone i know received something that didnt use their own in-house shipping service so you cant really blame "UPS/Fedex"
    - 13of40 4y ago
      A few months ago I ordered a dongle from Amazon to attach a floppy drive to a modern computer via USB. For some reason this weird, niche little thing was eligible for Amazon Essentials same day delivery. Apparently every Amazon warehouse has a dusty box of these things in the corner that they're still trying to unload?
- bombcar 4y ago
  Amazon quotes delivery times up to two weeks for me for prime now. And it doesn’t even ship (UPS) until a few days before the delivery date. And they still don’t do a good job combining orders.
ThunderSizzle 4y ago
Delivery has never been faster for me. Most things arrive in less than a day now. But some things do take longer. I guess it depends on stock levels.
- kennend3 4y ago
  The issue isnt just stock levels, it is stock levels at a specific distribution hub. As i posted i ordered a few items on tuesday and delivery will be friday. One of the items tracking details shows me that it is being shipped from a city ~ 120KM away yet there is a massive 1,000,000 square foot hub within waking distance from me?? Tracking hasn't updated to show me where the rest of the stuff is being shipped from so i can speak to the entire order. This gets to the CORE issue with amazon. Because i no longer have prime my stuff is almost intentionally held back to encourage me to get prime? It will not surprise me at all to see that when shipping is finally updated the other items on my list come from the local hub. Not all hubs hold all items and because of this your shipping times can fluctuate.
- sweezyjeezy 4y ago
  Agreed - live in London, and often receive things within 12 hours of purchase.
chrisbaker98 4y ago
Anecdotal, but I haven't noticed this in the UK. Pretty much everything I order from Amazon still arrives within 24 hours, and I live in the countryside (albeit in the southeast so still not far from London.) OTOH I still notice the problem that other people have mentioned - that practically everything on Amazon these days is the same repackaged Chinese dropshipped garbage. Which is one reason I shop on Amazon far less than I used to.
- iso1631 4y ago
  I've never managed to connect with America tales of the length of shipping. Almost (99%) everything I order from amazon arrives when it says, most of which is next day. I live in the country, but like most UK citizens fairly close to a major trunk road (10 miles or so). Of course I'm sure things are different if you live on Mull or Fair Isle, but for the vast majority of us it seems reliable The quality of what you get from amazon is of course somewhat different.
  - 13of40 4y ago
    I live in the Seattle area, so Amazon shipping is pretty fast and accurate, but there have been a few times when things were shipped but they apparently just disappeared in transit. One time it was a car part and it got close enough that it was on a truck from the city 20 miles north of here, then it just dropped off the radar and they refunded my money. Then every once in a while you get something that takes a month to deliver, comes in a package covered with customs stamps, and is roughly the size and shape of what was ordered but wrong. I ordered a titanium tube one time - think the dimensions of a reusable drinking straw - and after a month got a solid titanium rod. "Mail it back and we'll give you a refund." There's a bit of unfair asymmetry there, friend, since you're mailing stuff to the US all day and I wouldn't have the faintest clue how to send something to China, and I'm guessing it's going to cost far more than the thing I'm returning. But I'm an addict and I don't see myself cancelling Prime any time soon.
  - cratermoon 4y ago
    The difference between the US and the UK is size and the sheer remoteness of some places, even small cities. Unless you've been there, it's hard to grasp. I've driven around large parts of the western US and there's a LOT of empty space. I don't know how many shipping centers Amazon has in the UK, but I am about 99.999% sure that there's areas of the US larger than all of the British Isle that are served by a single warehouse and shipping center. So the variability in the US is going to be very high. Some places that happen to be near a shipping center, or two, will have consistent on-time delivery. Other places that are distant from one, and may have a high mountain pass that's dicey in winter or closed because of wildfires in the summer between them and that single center, are going to have problems.
DebtDeflation 4y ago
>even their shipping (with Prime too!) is getting slower Not only that. Try searching while in Incognito Mode and you'll see the same products, sold by Amazon.com, without Prime, for a few bucks cheaper than when you're logged in and seeing them with "free" Prime shipping.
- piva00 4y ago
  Thanks for validating my assumption, I encountered this twice and thought I was taking crazy pills. I don't even shop on Amazon much, like once or twice a year...
- takoid 4y ago
  Does this only happen with an active Prime membership? I tested a few search queries and didn’t see the inconsistencies you’re describing.
  - DebtDeflation 4y ago
    I assume so, since I have a Prime membership and it knows this when I'm logged in.
thefourthchime 4y ago
That might depend on where you live. I nearly always get next-day or 2-day shipping. There are exceptions, but for central Austin, it's pretty good.
manicennui 4y ago
This is heavily dependent on location. I receive almost everything in two days or less. It is extremely common to get things the next day or even the same day. I'm in the Chicago suburbs.
anifru 4y ago
> Shipping is still "free" but many items take 4 days (or more now). I've had the opposite experience. Everything comes within 1 day. Some items even come within 12 hours (overnight shipping delivering at 7am)
MikePlacid 4y ago
Where I live (a summerhouse in a small county seat in mountains) - Walmart, Bestbuy, Homedepot and others ship faster and usually for free even for small orders. Walmart also provides all-paper packaging (they seem to have worked hard on developing it) - so you can burn / recycle packaging without say peeling off stuck plastic tape first.
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by jrs235 4y ago

But even their shipping (with Prime too!) is getting slower and slower. Prime's selling point used to be free 2 day shipping. Shipping is still "free" but many items take 4 days (or more now).

zip1234 4y ago

Do you live in a city?

kennend3 4y ago
There are times i still use amazon and i actually bought a few items on Tuesday. Amazon's delivery date is friday? Want to guess where amazon's distribution warehouse is? A few blocks away from me. The point you are attempting to make is unclear. If the distribution hub is within walking distance from me, why does it take days to ship?
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- PaulHoule 4y ago
  I am sure your congressman gets same day or next day shipping in DC, though.
- mbreese 4y ago
  You’re assuming that the product you ordered is at that warehouse. It probably isn’t. They can’t store all products at all locations. Even if that distribution center ends up being the shipment origination site, the product still probably had to move within the Amazon network. Some of those things will move within the Amazon network, some with external (trackable) carriers (UPS/FedEx). And some things has restrictions on the method of transport. If there is a lithium battery anywhere in the device, it travels by ground. Also — if you’re in the US, today is a holiday and nothing will move. So today and yesterday had/has limited movement between distribution centers. And as we get closer to Christmas, the entire network will start to approach saturation. There are many reasons why things don’t always ship as fast as you’d like them to.
  - kennend3 4y ago
    Speaking of assumptions lets review yours for a moment. 1) I am not assuming the products are from different warehouses. I know this for a fact. Look at my other post and i stated one item is being shipped from a warehouse ~120 KM away. I will guess the rest is from the local warehouse? Once amazon updates the shipping details (probably friday AM) it will show me where it came from.. 2) I'm in Canada and it is not a holiday here so it is unclear why "today and yesterday had/has limited movement between distribution centers." 3) Amazon Canada rarely uses other carriers anymore. I cant tell you when the last time anyone i know received something that didnt use their own in-house shipping service so you cant really blame "UPS/Fedex"
  - 13of40 4y ago
    A few months ago I ordered a dongle from Amazon to attach a floppy drive to a modern computer via USB. For some reason this weird, niche little thing was eligible for Amazon Essentials same day delivery. Apparently every Amazon warehouse has a dusty box of these things in the corner that they're still trying to unload?
bombcar 4y ago
Amazon quotes delivery times up to two weeks for me for prime now. And it doesn’t even ship (UPS) until a few days before the delivery date. And they still don’t do a good job combining orders.

ThunderSizzle 4y ago

Delivery has never been faster for me. Most things arrive in less than a day now. But some things do take longer. I guess it depends on stock levels.

kennend3 4y ago
The issue isnt just stock levels, it is stock levels at a specific distribution hub. As i posted i ordered a few items on tuesday and delivery will be friday. One of the items tracking details shows me that it is being shipped from a city ~ 120KM away yet there is a massive 1,000,000 square foot hub within waking distance from me?? Tracking hasn't updated to show me where the rest of the stuff is being shipped from so i can speak to the entire order. This gets to the CORE issue with amazon. Because i no longer have prime my stuff is almost intentionally held back to encourage me to get prime? It will not surprise me at all to see that when shipping is finally updated the other items on my list come from the local hub. Not all hubs hold all items and because of this your shipping times can fluctuate.
sweezyjeezy 4y ago
Agreed - live in London, and often receive things within 12 hours of purchase.

chrisbaker98 4y ago

Anecdotal, but I haven't noticed this in the UK. Pretty much everything I order from Amazon still arrives within 24 hours, and I live in the countryside (albeit in the southeast so still not far from London.) OTOH I still notice the problem that other people have mentioned - that practically everything on Amazon these days is the same repackaged Chinese dropshipped garbage. Which is one reason I shop on Amazon far less than I used to.

iso1631 4y ago
I've never managed to connect with America tales of the length of shipping. Almost (99%) everything I order from amazon arrives when it says, most of which is next day. I live in the country, but like most UK citizens fairly close to a major trunk road (10 miles or so). Of course I'm sure things are different if you live on Mull or Fair Isle, but for the vast majority of us it seems reliable The quality of what you get from amazon is of course somewhat different.
- 13of40 4y ago
  I live in the Seattle area, so Amazon shipping is pretty fast and accurate, but there have been a few times when things were shipped but they apparently just disappeared in transit. One time it was a car part and it got close enough that it was on a truck from the city 20 miles north of here, then it just dropped off the radar and they refunded my money. Then every once in a while you get something that takes a month to deliver, comes in a package covered with customs stamps, and is roughly the size and shape of what was ordered but wrong. I ordered a titanium tube one time - think the dimensions of a reusable drinking straw - and after a month got a solid titanium rod. "Mail it back and we'll give you a refund." There's a bit of unfair asymmetry there, friend, since you're mailing stuff to the US all day and I wouldn't have the faintest clue how to send something to China, and I'm guessing it's going to cost far more than the thing I'm returning. But I'm an addict and I don't see myself cancelling Prime any time soon.
- cratermoon 4y ago
  The difference between the US and the UK is size and the sheer remoteness of some places, even small cities. Unless you've been there, it's hard to grasp. I've driven around large parts of the western US and there's a LOT of empty space. I don't know how many shipping centers Amazon has in the UK, but I am about 99.999% sure that there's areas of the US larger than all of the British Isle that are served by a single warehouse and shipping center. So the variability in the US is going to be very high. Some places that happen to be near a shipping center, or two, will have consistent on-time delivery. Other places that are distant from one, and may have a high mountain pass that's dicey in winter or closed because of wildfires in the summer between them and that single center, are going to have problems.

DebtDeflation 4y ago

>even their shipping (with Prime too!) is getting slower Not only that. Try searching while in Incognito Mode and you'll see the same products, sold by Amazon.com, without Prime, for a few bucks cheaper than when you're logged in and seeing them with "free" Prime shipping.

piva00 4y ago
Thanks for validating my assumption, I encountered this twice and thought I was taking crazy pills. I don't even shop on Amazon much, like once or twice a year...
takoid 4y ago
Does this only happen with an active Prime membership? I tested a few search queries and didn’t see the inconsistencies you’re describing.
- DebtDeflation 4y ago
  I assume so, since I have a Prime membership and it knows this when I'm logged in.

thefourthchime 4y ago

That might depend on where you live. I nearly always get next-day or 2-day shipping. There are exceptions, but for central Austin, it's pretty good.

manicennui 4y ago

This is heavily dependent on location. I receive almost everything in two days or less. It is extremely common to get things the next day or even the same day. I'm in the Chicago suburbs.

anifru 4y ago

> Shipping is still "free" but many items take 4 days (or more now). I've had the opposite experience. Everything comes within 1 day. Some items even come within 12 hours (overnight shipping delivering at 7am)

MikePlacid 4y ago

Where I live (a summerhouse in a small county seat in mountains) - Walmart, Bestbuy, Homedepot and others ship faster and usually for free even for small orders. Walmart also provides all-paper packaging (they seem to have worked hard on developing it) - so you can burn / recycle packaging without say peeling off stuck plastic tape first.

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