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They did this with Gmail years ago. Same scheme, I warned everyone that gmail.com would change over to a google related domain, and it didn't take long. And I t

They did this with Gmail years ago. Same scheme, I warned everyone that gmail.com would change over to a google related domain, and it didn't take long. And I tried to explain how it meant every email could be directly related to your internet traffic. "What do I have to hide?" was always the response...

jsnell 4y ago
I don't believe your alleged change happened. Gmail was hosted under google.com literally from the day it launched [0]. [0] http://googlepress.blogspot.com/2004/04/google-gets-message-launches-gmail.html http://googlepress.blogspot.com/2004/04/google-gets-message-...
- RobertRoberts 4y ago
  It did, I watched it explicitly for this reason, but I guess unless it's documented somewhere, oh well. It was even googlemail.com for awhile. Edit: It's possible my concern was the subdomain and my memory is off. It moved from a subdomain to a /gmail at one point (or something similar). That is when I swore off it. What clearly recall is that there was something wrong, either it was how it did a redirect to google.com first and then back or shared cookies in a very sneaky way that alerted me. (I was building sites at the time and I was privacy conscience early on in my career)
  - jsnell 4y ago
    Sure, this is what that Wikipedia page says: > As of 22 June 2005, Gmail's canonical URI changed from http://gmail.google.com/gmail/ http://gmail.google.com/gmail/ to http://mail.google.com/mail/ http://mail.google.com/mail/. As you can see from your own source, the canonical URL has always been under google.com, not under gmail.com. Edit: the parent post was originally linking to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail, before being edited
    - RobertRoberts 4y ago
      Gmail.com was redirecting (still does) and that at the time sub-domains could share cookies with the main domain. Therefore, gmail.google.com could track cookies and activity via google.com. This has been fixed since then, so I think the memory of the internet is short and wouldn't understand how bad this was in retrospect. (my previous edits: Yep, I didn't want to drag this out. My memory was off on something.)

jsnell 4y ago

I don't believe your alleged change happened. Gmail was hosted under google.com literally from the day it launched [0]. [0] http://googlepress.blogspot.com/2004/04/google-gets-message-launches-gmail.html http://googlepress.blogspot.com/2004/04/google-gets-message-...

RobertRoberts 4y ago
It did, I watched it explicitly for this reason, but I guess unless it's documented somewhere, oh well. It was even googlemail.com for awhile. Edit: It's possible my concern was the subdomain and my memory is off. It moved from a subdomain to a /gmail at one point (or something similar). That is when I swore off it. What clearly recall is that there was something wrong, either it was how it did a redirect to google.com first and then back or shared cookies in a very sneaky way that alerted me. (I was building sites at the time and I was privacy conscience early on in my career)
- jsnell 4y ago
  Sure, this is what that Wikipedia page says: > As of 22 June 2005, Gmail's canonical URI changed from http://gmail.google.com/gmail/ http://gmail.google.com/gmail/ to http://mail.google.com/mail/ http://mail.google.com/mail/. As you can see from your own source, the canonical URL has always been under google.com, not under gmail.com. Edit: the parent post was originally linking to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gmail, before being edited
  - RobertRoberts 4y ago
    Gmail.com was redirecting (still does) and that at the time sub-domains could share cookies with the main domain. Therefore, gmail.google.com could track cookies and activity via google.com. This has been fixed since then, so I think the memory of the internet is short and wouldn't understand how bad this was in retrospect. (my previous edits: Yep, I didn't want to drag this out. My memory was off on something.)