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I agree it's probably by design, but I contest that it's a bad thing. People comment on this takeover with a mindset where the company is made only of employees

I agree it's probably by design, but I contest that it's a bad thing. People comment on this takeover with a mindset where the company is made only of employees and owner. There are quite a few more stakeholders in this, much more than usual in this case. There are its clients (advertisers), its users, and everybody that's indirectly affected by the dialogue that goes on Twitter. From the mindset I mentioned, yes, Musk is needlessly cruel and a bully. But he was quite clear from the beginning that he's doing it in good part for society at large - so the normal priority of stakeholders is actually reversed. Society and discourse become most important, then users, then clients and employees.

kibwen 4y ago
> But he was quite clear from the beginning that he's doing it in good part for society at large Judge a man by his actions, not by his words. So far, his actions have been cruel and destructive, not only to Twitter's employees and Twitter's users, but also to everyone forced to share a society with the newly-chaotic, increasingly-bot-filled, resurgently-hateful, woefully-undermoderated Twitter. Musk is a liar. Stop worshiping this man.
- nickpp 4y ago
  Haven’t seen any change at all as a Twitter user since the whole Elon brouhaha started.
  - Volundr 4y ago
    Really? I've seen 2fa break, the rules for parody accounts change multiple times, ones making fun of Elon banned and the blue checkmark fiasco where a bunch of people were able to purchase official looking accounts for prominent companies and people.
    - nickpp 4y ago
      Oh, I read about those but I saw absolutely no change in my daily use, other the tweets commenting, of course. The app worked fine. I am at most a casual user though.
      - skinnymuch 4y ago
        Okay. A lot of people were affected though.
        nickpp 4y ago
        Yeah, so I keep hearing. Never met one of those people or one of those effects myself though.
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        I am effected. I can send you proof if you email me. My follower count is zero when I’m logged in after I was locked out of my account for a bit right after retweeting a joke meme critical of Elon’s handling of Twitter. Elon told me he wants to make Twitter a free speech area. Why did anything negative happen because I posted a family friendly meme? Just because it insults the owner of the free speech platform? I only log into Twitter once a month. I post even less. This is the first time I’ve had issues. I don’t have proof for loading being janky at times in recent weeks but I could be on the lookout and take screenshots of that too.
        nickpp 4y ago
        I believe you, thanks for writing about it here.
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        If I have to not be biased. Yeah it isn’t the biggest deal yet. Would I hate this sort of situation regardless of who was at the helm? Absolutely. The worst thing as a [tech] worker is people being okay with Twitter as it is now and with more gradual degradation. I will vote with my class interest by saying Twitter isn’t fine. Why should most people be fine with shoddy work by overworked employees or with possibly weak safety and security. All of this because debt repayment has to happen on billions of dollars of debt put on to the company’s books.

kibwen 4y ago

> But he was quite clear from the beginning that he's doing it in good part for society at large Judge a man by his actions, not by his words. So far, his actions have been cruel and destructive, not only to Twitter's employees and Twitter's users, but also to everyone forced to share a society with the newly-chaotic, increasingly-bot-filled, resurgently-hateful, woefully-undermoderated Twitter. Musk is a liar. Stop worshiping this man.

nickpp 4y ago
Haven’t seen any change at all as a Twitter user since the whole Elon brouhaha started.
- Volundr 4y ago
  Really? I've seen 2fa break, the rules for parody accounts change multiple times, ones making fun of Elon banned and the blue checkmark fiasco where a bunch of people were able to purchase official looking accounts for prominent companies and people.
  - nickpp 4y ago
    Oh, I read about those but I saw absolutely no change in my daily use, other the tweets commenting, of course. The app worked fine. I am at most a casual user though.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      Okay. A lot of people were affected though.
      - nickpp 4y ago
        Yeah, so I keep hearing. Never met one of those people or one of those effects myself though.
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        I am effected. I can send you proof if you email me. My follower count is zero when I’m logged in after I was locked out of my account for a bit right after retweeting a joke meme critical of Elon’s handling of Twitter. Elon told me he wants to make Twitter a free speech area. Why did anything negative happen because I posted a family friendly meme? Just because it insults the owner of the free speech platform? I only log into Twitter once a month. I post even less. This is the first time I’ve had issues. I don’t have proof for loading being janky at times in recent weeks but I could be on the lookout and take screenshots of that too.
        nickpp 4y ago
        I believe you, thanks for writing about it here.
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        If I have to not be biased. Yeah it isn’t the biggest deal yet. Would I hate this sort of situation regardless of who was at the helm? Absolutely. The worst thing as a [tech] worker is people being okay with Twitter as it is now and with more gradual degradation. I will vote with my class interest by saying Twitter isn’t fine. Why should most people be fine with shoddy work by overworked employees or with possibly weak safety and security. All of this because debt repayment has to happen on billions of dollars of debt put on to the company’s books.