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Have they fixed the issue of Teslas ploughing through pedestrians yet?

iknowstuff 4y ago
There hasn't been a single such accident. It's very careful around VRUs. The dude behind the mannequin video sells lidar systems and was caught doctoring the first video he released.
- bearmode 4y ago
  If you're going to claim that first video was 'doctored', how about the second, the follow-up in a school zone, on a crosswalk, with the child dummy wearing a reflective safety vest, showing FSD enabled, and the accelerator not being depressed, with everything in view at all times? https://twitter.com/RealDanODowd/status/1559245760054575112?s=20&t=l-h9QGOd2BeWRL5vP5tIbA https://twitter.com/RealDanODowd/status/1559245760054575112?... What about the one from China where a Tesla accelerated on its own, the driver was unable to brake, and it ended up mowing down two pedestrians? https://electrek.co/2022/11/13/tesla-china-responds-to-dramatic-crash-that-kills-two-video/ https://electrek.co/2022/11/13/tesla-china-responds-to-drama...
  - iknowstuff 4y ago
    1) not fsd, just a test of automated emergency braking 2) lidar guy. You'll see a ton of responses to his antics on HN and YouTube. 3) not fsd, driver confused pedals
    - ramraj07 4y ago
      > driver confused pedals Says Tesla who had every intention to lie. The driver wasn’t drunk and I can’t believe a human can plough accudentally for that long.
      - iknowstuff 4y ago
        They were proven right in court in every prior case. This isn't new. Not that this is relevant anyway. This incident is not related to autonomy at all.
    - bearmode 4y ago
      >1) not fsd, just a test of automated emergency braking So you're saying we should trust full self-driving on a car that can't brake in emergencies reliably? And that this is ok? >2) lidar guy. You'll see a ton of responses to his antics on HN and YouTube. From fans of Tesla & Musk. Just as untrustworthy. Except one side here has provided evidence of a problem, and the other side has responded by making excuses & attacking the guy.
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- leereeves 4y ago
  There was an accident in Japan where a Tesla on Autopilot hit someone standing on the side of the highway, Yoshihiro Umeda.
  - iknowstuff 4y ago
    That's not FSD. That's the old, radar-based, 2018, freeway lane keeping autopilot.
    - leereeves 4y ago
      Fair point, but FSD hasn't been widely available, so the lack of accidents involving FSD specifically doesn't mean much. Basically, FSD has virtually no safety record, not a good safety record.
bigtex 4y ago
That comes after it stops running into stopped emergency vehicles, which happened again last week FYI.

There hasn't been a single such accident. It's very careful around VRUs. The dude behind the mannequin video sells lidar systems and was caught doctoring the first video he released.

bearmode 4y ago
If you're going to claim that first video was 'doctored', how about the second, the follow-up in a school zone, on a crosswalk, with the child dummy wearing a reflective safety vest, showing FSD enabled, and the accelerator not being depressed, with everything in view at all times? https://twitter.com/RealDanODowd/status/1559245760054575112?s=20&t=l-h9QGOd2BeWRL5vP5tIbA https://twitter.com/RealDanODowd/status/1559245760054575112?... What about the one from China where a Tesla accelerated on its own, the driver was unable to brake, and it ended up mowing down two pedestrians? https://electrek.co/2022/11/13/tesla-china-responds-to-dramatic-crash-that-kills-two-video/ https://electrek.co/2022/11/13/tesla-china-responds-to-drama...
- iknowstuff 4y ago
  1) not fsd, just a test of automated emergency braking 2) lidar guy. You'll see a ton of responses to his antics on HN and YouTube. 3) not fsd, driver confused pedals
  - ramraj07 4y ago
    > driver confused pedals Says Tesla who had every intention to lie. The driver wasn’t drunk and I can’t believe a human can plough accudentally for that long.
    - iknowstuff 4y ago
      They were proven right in court in every prior case. This isn't new. Not that this is relevant anyway. This incident is not related to autonomy at all.
  - bearmode 4y ago
    >1) not fsd, just a test of automated emergency braking So you're saying we should trust full self-driving on a car that can't brake in emergencies reliably? And that this is ok? >2) lidar guy. You'll see a ton of responses to his antics on HN and YouTube. From fans of Tesla & Musk. Just as untrustworthy. Except one side here has provided evidence of a problem, and the other side has responded by making excuses & attacking the guy.
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leereeves 4y ago
There was an accident in Japan where a Tesla on Autopilot hit someone standing on the side of the highway, Yoshihiro Umeda.
- iknowstuff 4y ago
  That's not FSD. That's the old, radar-based, 2018, freeway lane keeping autopilot.
  - leereeves 4y ago
    Fair point, but FSD hasn't been widely available, so the lack of accidents involving FSD specifically doesn't mean much. Basically, FSD has virtually no safety record, not a good safety record.

bigtex 4y ago

That comes after it stops running into stopped emergency vehicles, which happened again last week FYI.