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I like it. Ought to be a built-in browser feature, in addition to generic reader mode. But then so should uBO-level ad blocking...so you may have many years. H

I like it. Ought to be a built-in browser feature, in addition to generic reader mode. But then so should uBO-level ad blocking...so you may have many years. Have you considered donations/sponsors/patrons? Presumably more an occasional coffee requires massive numbers of users for something like this, but maybe you could do something like prioritize attention to site-specific fixes (which seem to be the main thing in https://github.com/lindylearn/unclutter/issues https://github.com/lindylearn/unclutter/issues) for supporters. Added: the annotation/library/social features look interesting and thoughtfully done, but <10% chance I'll use regularly. Perhaps I should want a tool such as this to help me be more organized, but instead I perceive it a bit as...clutter.

phgn 4y ago
Seeing many parts of the UI as unnecessary seems to be a common reaction, particularly for people who find it by searching "reader mode" in the Chrome store. What do you think about presenting the library aspect as a "Pocket alternative"?
- mlinksva 4y ago
  I've never used Pocket, and upon seeing it in the Firefox UI, immediately searched for how to hide it. I'm the wrong person to ask. :) But if I were to embrace such features, I'd have a naive question: why do I need to unclutter an article to access them? If I'm perfectly happy reading a normally rendered page and see a phrase I want to annotate, I won't want to break my flow by uncluttering first. This emphasizes to me that these features feel like they belong in two separate extensions.
  - phgn 4y ago
    Good point. I actually wanted to address this "breaking the flow" with the "keeping the style of the original site" approach for Unclutter, vs. reader modes that have a totally different reading UI. But maybe that's not working out completely. Thanks for the feedback!
    - mlinksva 4y ago
      Yeah, I think the re-render(?) breaks flow as completely as traditional reader mode, it doesn't matter that the uncluttered version retains some of the look of the original. If the text doesn't stay in the same place, flow is broken. In addition it seems there's some animation affect in the original->uncluttered transition that makes it slightly more jarring, but is not fundamental. Thanks for unclutter, careful listening to feedback in this Show HN post, and pointing out your inspirations at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33718859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33718859! Though I've never connected with its functionality beyond reader mode (in any tool), I'd love to at some point, but it's hard to get right in a way that doesn't become burdensome or transitory. I want browsers to become much more powerful user agents. Stuff like hypothes.is that I see you've integrated with is super cool, just not there for me yet. Godspeed!
- pihentagy 4y ago
  That would require to sync your library on your Firefox account, right?
  - phgn 4y ago
    Yep, Pocket has an API for this.

phgn 4y ago

Seeing many parts of the UI as unnecessary seems to be a common reaction, particularly for people who find it by searching "reader mode" in the Chrome store. What do you think about presenting the library aspect as a "Pocket alternative"?

mlinksva 4y ago
I've never used Pocket, and upon seeing it in the Firefox UI, immediately searched for how to hide it. I'm the wrong person to ask. :) But if I were to embrace such features, I'd have a naive question: why do I need to unclutter an article to access them? If I'm perfectly happy reading a normally rendered page and see a phrase I want to annotate, I won't want to break my flow by uncluttering first. This emphasizes to me that these features feel like they belong in two separate extensions.
- phgn 4y ago
  Good point. I actually wanted to address this "breaking the flow" with the "keeping the style of the original site" approach for Unclutter, vs. reader modes that have a totally different reading UI. But maybe that's not working out completely. Thanks for the feedback!
  - mlinksva 4y ago
    Yeah, I think the re-render(?) breaks flow as completely as traditional reader mode, it doesn't matter that the uncluttered version retains some of the look of the original. If the text doesn't stay in the same place, flow is broken. In addition it seems there's some animation affect in the original->uncluttered transition that makes it slightly more jarring, but is not fundamental. Thanks for unclutter, careful listening to feedback in this Show HN post, and pointing out your inspirations at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33718859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33718859! Though I've never connected with its functionality beyond reader mode (in any tool), I'd love to at some point, but it's hard to get right in a way that doesn't become burdensome or transitory. I want browsers to become much more powerful user agents. Stuff like hypothes.is that I see you've integrated with is super cool, just not there for me yet. Godspeed!
pihentagy 4y ago
That would require to sync your library on your Firefox account, right?
- phgn 4y ago
  Yep, Pocket has an API for this.