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A lot of companies are moving into development in cloud, for example GitHub. Which is a future for many use cases, and for which iPad is an ideal device to work

by monkin 4y ago

A lot of companies are moving into development in cloud, for example GitHub. Which is a future for many use cases, and for which iPad is an ideal device to work with. > And you then still have to deal with keyboard issues.... What kind of issues?

em500 4y ago
If you do dev in the cloud, you might as well just get a Chromebook, since you're probably carrying a keyboard with the iPad anyway. And all the recent Chromebooks can also run Android and Linux apps.
andyp-kw 4y ago
The iPad is not an ideal work device for most people. Typing on a touchscreen is much slower than a keyboard. Add a keyboard to your iPad, congratulations you've now got a laptop with half the features. Cloud development sucks if you live far away from the datacenter due to latency. Also, if your internet connection goes down then you're unproductive until it comes back.
- monkin 4y ago
  I’m doing all my development in the cloud for the last two years and never had any latency problems whatsoever. And it’s not about feature comparison to a laptop, even with a keyboard as MacBook Air M2 is better and cheaper than iPad. But easy content consumption, taking notes, sketching, writing, and many others. It’s just more fun than a heavy laptop. But yes, it’s not for everyone as using it full-time requires a change in personal habits. There’s also not much pro apps, but for now you can produce videos, music, cad designs, web design (figma, adobe, serif), so it’s not so limiting as it was years ago.
  - oblio 4y ago
    When you say "development", do you mean writing and debugging code, tests, etc? Because none of the activities you list afterwards are writing and debugging code, tests, etc.
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diffeomorphism 4y ago
The ones mentioned in the article under "Some keys that won’t work"
2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y ago
> and for which iPad is an ideal device to work with But it's not, the opposite actually. Any kind of serious typing requires a proper keyboard. If you have to carry a tablet, which is essentially just a screen, and a keyboard, you might as well just take a laptop and gain the ability to take advantage of a general computing device.
- z9znz 4y ago
  A real keyboard is absolutely necessary for real work, as you say. I think what makes the iPad Pro attractive is that it can have a real, decent keyboard (and trackpad) that is optional depending on your momentary need. Unless one flies business class, there is often not enough space between seats to comfortably use a traditional laptop. With a tablet, you can at least do something. The other big thing is that iPad Pros have very high screen brightness. For working outside it's a big benefit, as most portable laptops don't get that bright. The M2 Air and the M* Pros do, but you can't just pull the screen off when you only need a screen. The best of both worlds, imo, is to have an M2 Air and an iPad Pro. When you're at a desk to do real work, you get the full laptop benefit plus the big iPad Pro as a second monitor. When you're on the daily outing, you take either or depending on your expected need. But you do now have a $5000 setup, which is more than many people would like to spend for a little more flexibility. If Apple hadn't done such a great job with the M* Air, it would be easier for me to consider some other vendors' 180 degree folding laptops. But the silence of my Air and the amazing battery life are hard to give up.

by monkin 4y ago

em500 4y ago

If you do dev in the cloud, you might as well just get a Chromebook, since you're probably carrying a keyboard with the iPad anyway. And all the recent Chromebooks can also run Android and Linux apps.

andyp-kw 4y ago

The iPad is not an ideal work device for most people. Typing on a touchscreen is much slower than a keyboard. Add a keyboard to your iPad, congratulations you've now got a laptop with half the features. Cloud development sucks if you live far away from the datacenter due to latency. Also, if your internet connection goes down then you're unproductive until it comes back.

monkin 4y ago
I’m doing all my development in the cloud for the last two years and never had any latency problems whatsoever. And it’s not about feature comparison to a laptop, even with a keyboard as MacBook Air M2 is better and cheaper than iPad. But easy content consumption, taking notes, sketching, writing, and many others. It’s just more fun than a heavy laptop. But yes, it’s not for everyone as using it full-time requires a change in personal habits. There’s also not much pro apps, but for now you can produce videos, music, cad designs, web design (figma, adobe, serif), so it’s not so limiting as it was years ago.
- oblio 4y ago
  When you say "development", do you mean writing and debugging code, tests, etc? Because none of the activities you list afterwards are writing and debugging code, tests, etc.
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diffeomorphism 4y ago

The ones mentioned in the article under "Some keys that won’t work"

2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y ago

> and for which iPad is an ideal device to work with But it's not, the opposite actually. Any kind of serious typing requires a proper keyboard. If you have to carry a tablet, which is essentially just a screen, and a keyboard, you might as well just take a laptop and gain the ability to take advantage of a general computing device.

z9znz 4y ago
A real keyboard is absolutely necessary for real work, as you say. I think what makes the iPad Pro attractive is that it can have a real, decent keyboard (and trackpad) that is optional depending on your momentary need. Unless one flies business class, there is often not enough space between seats to comfortably use a traditional laptop. With a tablet, you can at least do something. The other big thing is that iPad Pros have very high screen brightness. For working outside it's a big benefit, as most portable laptops don't get that bright. The M2 Air and the M* Pros do, but you can't just pull the screen off when you only need a screen. The best of both worlds, imo, is to have an M2 Air and an iPad Pro. When you're at a desk to do real work, you get the full laptop benefit plus the big iPad Pro as a second monitor. When you're on the daily outing, you take either or depending on your expected need. But you do now have a $5000 setup, which is more than many people would like to spend for a little more flexibility. If Apple hadn't done such a great job with the M* Air, it would be easier for me to consider some other vendors' 180 degree folding laptops. But the silence of my Air and the amazing battery life are hard to give up.