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I don't understand why so many people call Stable Diffusion open source.

myaccount9786 4y ago
You can download the model weights and run them offline. At least, you could in v1.4. I assume this is still possible on v2.0?
- schoen 4y ago
  Right, but the model weights are arguably not the "source code", and the license gives the users fewer rights than open source licenses do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Source_Definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Source_Definition
  - myaccount9786 4y ago
    I think the controls in this space are such a shit show right now that being "open model" is practically equivalent to a WTFPL. If you're trying to build an app based on SD, then not being open source matters. But seems like the majority of use cases are just "I want to run the model locally". And at that point HF can't stop me from just ripping the Wi-Fi card out of my computer.
xkapastel 4y ago
Why do you think it is not open source? The model weights, model architecture, and dataset are all available.
- charcircuit 4y ago
  Read the license of the model: https://github.com/Stability-AI/stablediffusion/blob/main/LICENSE-MODEL https://github.com/Stability-AI/stablediffusion/blob/main/LI... 5. and 7. make it not open source
  - simlevesque 4y ago
    Seems like it is open source, just not free software.
    - josephcsible 4y ago
      It's not free software or open source. Check the Open Source Definition: https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd
  - xkapastel 4y ago
    I don't see how it contradicts the open source definition at https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd, could you point it out for me?
    - josephcsible 4y ago
      For the most blatant violation, look at point 6 of the OSD and attachment A of the license.
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- josephcsible 4y ago
  Open source is more than just everything being available. It also depends on the license, and the one Stable Diffusion uses doesn't qualify, for multiple reasons, including the one mentioned upthread.

You can download the model weights and run them offline. At least, you could in v1.4. I assume this is still possible on v2.0?

schoen 4y ago
Right, but the model weights are arguably not the "source code", and the license gives the users fewer rights than open source licenses do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Source_Definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Source_Definition
- myaccount9786 4y ago
  I think the controls in this space are such a shit show right now that being "open model" is practically equivalent to a WTFPL. If you're trying to build an app based on SD, then not being open source matters. But seems like the majority of use cases are just "I want to run the model locally". And at that point HF can't stop me from just ripping the Wi-Fi card out of my computer.

xkapastel 4y ago

Why do you think it is not open source? The model weights, model architecture, and dataset are all available.

charcircuit 4y ago
Read the license of the model: https://github.com/Stability-AI/stablediffusion/blob/main/LICENSE-MODEL https://github.com/Stability-AI/stablediffusion/blob/main/LI... 5. and 7. make it not open source
- simlevesque 4y ago
  Seems like it is open source, just not free software.
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    It's not free software or open source. Check the Open Source Definition: https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd
- xkapastel 4y ago
  I don't see how it contradicts the open source definition at https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd, could you point it out for me?
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    For the most blatant violation, look at point 6 of the OSD and attachment A of the license.
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josephcsible 4y ago
Open source is more than just everything being available. It also depends on the license, and the one Stable Diffusion uses doesn't qualify, for multiple reasons, including the one mentioned upthread.