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Vaccinated people now make up a majority of Covid deaths

11 points by Operative0198 4y ago

injb 4y ago
...because vaccinated people now make up a majority of people?
- draw_down 4y ago
- mikkergp 4y ago
  Why the clickbaity title that seems explicitly designed to raise animosity when the conclusions are as a pro-vaccine person might expect? To like cause fights when an anti-vaxxer posts it without reading or something?
- Operative0198 4y ago
  So a double oxymoron?
- josephcsible 4y ago
  A majority of people are vaccinated against measles. Do vaccinated people make up a majority of measles deaths too? If not, then that can't be why.
  - injb 4y ago
    I don't know if I understand your comment. If 100% of people were vaccinated against covid, then 100% of covid deaths would have to be among vaccinated people, wouldn't they? Now it may be that the measles vaccine is 100% effective for all I know, so maybe no vaccinated people get it. But covid vaccinated people do get (and die from) covid, so more vaccinated people means a higher percentage of deaths will be among vaccinated people.
    - josephcsible 4y ago
      My point is that it isn't just because a majority of people are vaccinated. It's also because the COVID vaccine is really ineffective compared to most others, including the measles vaccine.
      - Arnt 4y ago
        Do you have any numbers for that? A comparison of the five major covid vaccines with, say, the twenty most recent flu vaccines would be really interesting.
        josephcsible 4y ago
        How about against other mandatory vaccines like polio and MMR, rather than against optional ones like influenza?
        Arnt 4y ago
        Fine, whatever you have.
  - Arnt 4y ago
    But it can be due to age skew, e.g. older vaccinated people dying at higher rates than younger unvaccinated people. It would be interesting to see rates per age cohort.
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  Combined with young people being less likely to die, and therefore less likely to be vaccinated. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demogr... Looks like vaccination is roughly equivalent to being 30 years younger. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/data-review/vaccines.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/data-revie...

11 points by Operative0198 4y ago

injb 4y ago

...because vaccinated people now make up a majority of people?

draw_down 4y ago
mikkergp 4y ago
Why the clickbaity title that seems explicitly designed to raise animosity when the conclusions are as a pro-vaccine person might expect? To like cause fights when an anti-vaxxer posts it without reading or something?
Operative0198 4y ago
So a double oxymoron?
josephcsible 4y ago
A majority of people are vaccinated against measles. Do vaccinated people make up a majority of measles deaths too? If not, then that can't be why.
- injb 4y ago
  I don't know if I understand your comment. If 100% of people were vaccinated against covid, then 100% of covid deaths would have to be among vaccinated people, wouldn't they? Now it may be that the measles vaccine is 100% effective for all I know, so maybe no vaccinated people get it. But covid vaccinated people do get (and die from) covid, so more vaccinated people means a higher percentage of deaths will be among vaccinated people.
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    My point is that it isn't just because a majority of people are vaccinated. It's also because the COVID vaccine is really ineffective compared to most others, including the measles vaccine.
    - Arnt 4y ago
      Do you have any numbers for that? A comparison of the five major covid vaccines with, say, the twenty most recent flu vaccines would be really interesting.
      - josephcsible 4y ago
        How about against other mandatory vaccines like polio and MMR, rather than against optional ones like influenza?
        Arnt 4y ago
        Fine, whatever you have.
- Arnt 4y ago
  But it can be due to age skew, e.g. older vaccinated people dying at higher rates than younger unvaccinated people. It would be interesting to see rates per age cohort.
ZeroGravitas 4y ago
Combined with young people being less likely to die, and therefore less likely to be vaccinated. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographics-trends https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demogr... Looks like vaccination is roughly equivalent to being 30 years younger. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/data-review/vaccines.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/data-revie...