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Like Tesla might do with their upgraded autopilots and seat heating? They have also started talking about subscriptions for these, don't know if they actually h

Like Tesla might do with their upgraded autopilots and seat heating? They have also started talking about subscriptions for these, don't know if they actually have implemented it yet.. I think all luxury manufacturers will experiment with this unfortunately. Best you can do is don't buy into it...

masklinn 4y ago
Haven't they already done something along those lines where some options are per-owner and transferring the vehicle will remove the option?
- forgotpwd16 4y ago
  No, but it's considered. What you may have heard is car returned and feature being removed when sold to someone else.
- Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
  If you sell private party, or trade it to a non-Tesla dealership, then all options will follow the vehicle. If it ever gets back into Tesla's hands, they have the option to remove the features. There WAS a case where someone bought a used Tesla from a non-Tesla dealership that was sold with FSD and Tesla then removed the FSD, and there was a lot of outrage behind it, but like many cases of outrage, it was based on a misunderstanding. That car was never supposed to have FSD. There was a bug at some point that gave FSD to cars that weren't supposed to have it, and that car was sold before the bug was fixed, removing FSD, but the dealer sold it as having FSD because at the time, it did. Of course, IMO, Tesla should have just gone ahead and granted FSD in order to save face instead of generating a ton of negative PR and creating a massive amount of misconceptions.
forgotpwd16 4y ago
Tesla already provides a faster acceleration software upgrade. Mercedes just copied them.
- 0x0 4y ago
  Tesla's acceleration boost upgrade is a one-time fee though!
poxrud 4y ago
Tesla also has a paid acceleration boost option in their app and its more expensive than $1200.
- calciphus 4y ago
  It is a one-time $2000 upgrade on my car. Dunno about others, but the subscription being a "for the life of the vehicle" purchase seems like the lousy part of this deal.
- Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
  Only available on the Model 3 LR AWD. And this wasn't a feature when it first came out, but I wonder if Tesla planned it from the beginning, or if it's something they decided to start offering only after people started noticing that the motors and battery on the LR AWD were the same as the Performance and started asking for a software unlock.
  - poxrud 4y ago
    Available on Model Y LR as well
vanviegen 4y ago
I think there's a case to be made for autopilot subscriptions; once autopilot finally does what is says on the tin. These things require access to accurate and up-to-date road and traffic info, need updates to stay compliant with local regulations, and may (need to) include insurance. These are all factors that nudge towards a monthly subscription, instead of a one-time purchase. Once the seller goes bust, you wouldn't be able to use your 'purchase' anyhow.
- mh7 4y ago
  >These things require access to accurate and up-to-date road and traffic info Which they will probably steal from the regular drivers, so you will be effectively paying for your own data.
type0 4y ago
> I think all luxury manufacturers will experiment with this unfortunately. And not so luxury as well, they might start by giving you the features and financing that by playing/showing you the ads and giving the incentive to pay. I imagine in not so distant future even the microwaves for plebs will have ads.

masklinn 4y ago

Haven't they already done something along those lines where some options are per-owner and transferring the vehicle will remove the option?

forgotpwd16 4y ago
No, but it's considered. What you may have heard is car returned and feature being removed when sold to someone else.
Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
If you sell private party, or trade it to a non-Tesla dealership, then all options will follow the vehicle. If it ever gets back into Tesla's hands, they have the option to remove the features. There WAS a case where someone bought a used Tesla from a non-Tesla dealership that was sold with FSD and Tesla then removed the FSD, and there was a lot of outrage behind it, but like many cases of outrage, it was based on a misunderstanding. That car was never supposed to have FSD. There was a bug at some point that gave FSD to cars that weren't supposed to have it, and that car was sold before the bug was fixed, removing FSD, but the dealer sold it as having FSD because at the time, it did. Of course, IMO, Tesla should have just gone ahead and granted FSD in order to save face instead of generating a ton of negative PR and creating a massive amount of misconceptions.

forgotpwd16 4y ago

Tesla already provides a faster acceleration software upgrade. Mercedes just copied them.

0x0 4y ago
Tesla's acceleration boost upgrade is a one-time fee though!

poxrud 4y ago

Tesla also has a paid acceleration boost option in their app and its more expensive than $1200.

calciphus 4y ago
It is a one-time $2000 upgrade on my car. Dunno about others, but the subscription being a "for the life of the vehicle" purchase seems like the lousy part of this deal.
Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
Only available on the Model 3 LR AWD. And this wasn't a feature when it first came out, but I wonder if Tesla planned it from the beginning, or if it's something they decided to start offering only after people started noticing that the motors and battery on the LR AWD were the same as the Performance and started asking for a software unlock.
- poxrud 4y ago
  Available on Model Y LR as well

vanviegen 4y ago

I think there's a case to be made for autopilot subscriptions; once autopilot finally does what is says on the tin. These things require access to accurate and up-to-date road and traffic info, need updates to stay compliant with local regulations, and may (need to) include insurance. These are all factors that nudge towards a monthly subscription, instead of a one-time purchase. Once the seller goes bust, you wouldn't be able to use your 'purchase' anyhow.

mh7 4y ago
>These things require access to accurate and up-to-date road and traffic info Which they will probably steal from the regular drivers, so you will be effectively paying for your own data.

type0 4y ago

> I think all luxury manufacturers will experiment with this unfortunately. And not so luxury as well, they might start by giving you the features and financing that by playing/showing you the ads and giving the incentive to pay. I imagine in not so distant future even the microwaves for plebs will have ads.