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I seem to recall someone else getting in trouble for distributing Windows ISOs in the past. MS tends to get very touchy on that ostensibly for security reasons

by leeter 4y ago

I seem to recall someone else getting in trouble for distributing Windows ISOs in the past. MS tends to get very touchy on that ostensibly for security reasons (which I actually get). They seem tend to look askance at scripts that strip down the OS but don't seem to otherwise care other than to tell people they won't get support while using said things.

JPLeRouzic 4y ago
In the past many people were distributing binaries from Windows without Microsoft being very touchy. You can check: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BartPE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BartPE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLite_and_vLite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLite_and_vLite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinBuilder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinBuilder You can also find customized failed build of Windows like Neptune, Chicago, Whistler, Longhorn etc. ISOs. One example: https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44187 https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44187 I guess Microsoft thinks that ultimately, it gets people acquainted with Windows and even loving it.
- nunobrito 4y ago
  Hello, I'm the developer of Winbuilder. Those builder projects exist specifically because they avoid distribuing ANY Microsoft binaries. You have to provide the installation files or ISO. The files are then extracted from there and used for building a new image. That is the reason why these hobby and sysadmin projects were able to exist for so long without legal issues from Microsoft. Distributing ISO images with Microsoft files like beta archive and now AtlasOS goes against the EULA conditions (assuming they are valid in your host country).
  - JPLeRouzic 4y ago
    Hello, I admire your various works and contributions,
    - nunobrito 4y ago
      Merci!
trynewideas 4y ago
Might be thinking of Ninjutsu OS, which got a DMCA takedown in 2020 for distributing modified Windows installation ISOs "that heavily modify Windows 10 with a huge number of tweaks, mods and extra tools" for pentesting: https://torrentfreak.com/removing-annoying-windows-10-features-is-a-dmca-violation-microsoft-says-200611/ https://torrentfreak.com/removing-annoying-windows-10-featur... Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23486887 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23486887 Complaint text: https://github.com/github/dmca/commit/e6911fbf79c67c6f9e834cb4bc7cdc10679318e7 https://github.com/github/dmca/commit/e6911fbf79c67c6f9e834c...
- leeter 4y ago
  I think I saw that one; but the one that comes to mind is also: https://www.techdirt.com/2018/04/27/how-microsoft-convinced-clueless-judges-to-send-man-to-jail-copying-software-it-gives-out-free/ https://www.techdirt.com/2018/04/27/how-microsoft-convinced-...

by leeter 4y ago

JPLeRouzic 4y ago

In the past many people were distributing binaries from Windows without Microsoft being very touchy. You can check: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BartPE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BartPE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLite_and_vLite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLite_and_vLite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinBuilder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinBuilder You can also find customized failed build of Windows like Neptune, Chicago, Whistler, Longhorn etc. ISOs. One example: https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44187 https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44187 I guess Microsoft thinks that ultimately, it gets people acquainted with Windows and even loving it.

nunobrito 4y ago
Hello, I'm the developer of Winbuilder. Those builder projects exist specifically because they avoid distribuing ANY Microsoft binaries. You have to provide the installation files or ISO. The files are then extracted from there and used for building a new image. That is the reason why these hobby and sysadmin projects were able to exist for so long without legal issues from Microsoft. Distributing ISO images with Microsoft files like beta archive and now AtlasOS goes against the EULA conditions (assuming they are valid in your host country).
- JPLeRouzic 4y ago
  Hello, I admire your various works and contributions,
  - nunobrito 4y ago
    Merci!

trynewideas 4y ago

Might be thinking of Ninjutsu OS, which got a DMCA takedown in 2020 for distributing modified Windows installation ISOs "that heavily modify Windows 10 with a huge number of tweaks, mods and extra tools" for pentesting: https://torrentfreak.com/removing-annoying-windows-10-features-is-a-dmca-violation-microsoft-says-200611/ https://torrentfreak.com/removing-annoying-windows-10-featur... Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23486887 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23486887 Complaint text: https://github.com/github/dmca/commit/e6911fbf79c67c6f9e834cb4bc7cdc10679318e7 https://github.com/github/dmca/commit/e6911fbf79c67c6f9e834c...

leeter 4y ago
I think I saw that one; but the one that comes to mind is also: https://www.techdirt.com/2018/04/27/how-microsoft-convinced-clueless-judges-to-send-man-to-jail-copying-software-it-gives-out-free/ https://www.techdirt.com/2018/04/27/how-microsoft-convinced-...