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It’s not encouraging that even the most common use cases for these systems still have rough edges. The Google ones do support named timers, so you can say “sta

by cmckn 4y ago

It’s not encouraging that even the most common use cases for these systems still have rough edges. The Google ones do support named timers, so you can say “start a pasta timer” and later ask “what’s left on my pasta timer” etc. I thought Siri added this at some point, but I wouldn’t be surprised if not.

sbuk 4y ago
It does. "Hey Siri, set a timer for 45 minutes called pasta bake", "Hey Siri, how long left on pasta bake?" works.
- aflag 4y ago
  Actually, it seems that google is now able to cope with things a bit better. I've just tried and I can now ask for "how long left on my 45-minute timer?" and it does finally answer. It actually also shows up in the UI. That is sort of recent, though, as I've had that problem earlier this year. It seems that siri is now unable to set multiple timers, though. Anyway, it does seem to have improved, but I wonder why that stuff wasn't in from day one. It seems pretty obvious to me.
  - sbuk 4y ago
    Nope, Siri can also do multiple timers. It asks for an name if an unnamed timer of the same length already exists.
    - aflag 4y ago
      Oddly enough, in the iPadOS 15.7.1 at least if I say "Hey siri, set a timer for 20 minutes" it will say "20 minutes, starting now". Then if I say "Hey siri, set a timer for 5 minutes" it says "there's already a 20 minute timer. Replace it?" If I say "set a timer for 20 minutes called A" it just ignores the "called A" part.
      - amake 4y ago
        I do "Hey Siri set a timer for Foo for 5 minutes" I get a timer named Foo, and I can then set concurrent timers named Bar, Baz, etc. without replacement.
        ghaff 4y ago
        Yep, that seems to work which brings us back to the need to memorize fairly precise incantations.
    - Tagbert 4y ago
      Weirdly, the ability to set multiple timers varies by the device you are using. A HomePod can set multiple timers. A Watch, iPhone, or iPad can only set one timer. There is no obvious technical reason for it. It just seems like only the HomePod team thought it was an important feature. This becomes annoying if you have multiple devices set to respond to “hey Siri” and the wrong one picks up the request and then refuses to comply.
      - s1mon 4y ago
        This used to be true, but at least the Apple Watch lets me do this all the time. I forget which OS update added the capability.
noelsusman 4y ago
It even plays a little Italian jingle if you start a pasta timer.

by cmckn 4y ago

sbuk 4y ago

It does. "Hey Siri, set a timer for 45 minutes called pasta bake", "Hey Siri, how long left on pasta bake?" works.

aflag 4y ago
Actually, it seems that google is now able to cope with things a bit better. I've just tried and I can now ask for "how long left on my 45-minute timer?" and it does finally answer. It actually also shows up in the UI. That is sort of recent, though, as I've had that problem earlier this year. It seems that siri is now unable to set multiple timers, though. Anyway, it does seem to have improved, but I wonder why that stuff wasn't in from day one. It seems pretty obvious to me.
- sbuk 4y ago
  Nope, Siri can also do multiple timers. It asks for an name if an unnamed timer of the same length already exists.
  - aflag 4y ago
    Oddly enough, in the iPadOS 15.7.1 at least if I say "Hey siri, set a timer for 20 minutes" it will say "20 minutes, starting now". Then if I say "Hey siri, set a timer for 5 minutes" it says "there's already a 20 minute timer. Replace it?" If I say "set a timer for 20 minutes called A" it just ignores the "called A" part.
    - amake 4y ago
      I do "Hey Siri set a timer for Foo for 5 minutes" I get a timer named Foo, and I can then set concurrent timers named Bar, Baz, etc. without replacement.
      - ghaff 4y ago
        Yep, that seems to work which brings us back to the need to memorize fairly precise incantations.
  - Tagbert 4y ago
    Weirdly, the ability to set multiple timers varies by the device you are using. A HomePod can set multiple timers. A Watch, iPhone, or iPad can only set one timer. There is no obvious technical reason for it. It just seems like only the HomePod team thought it was an important feature. This becomes annoying if you have multiple devices set to respond to “hey Siri” and the wrong one picks up the request and then refuses to comply.
    - s1mon 4y ago
      This used to be true, but at least the Apple Watch lets me do this all the time. I forget which OS update added the capability.

noelsusman 4y ago

It even plays a little Italian jingle if you start a pasta timer.