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"DDoSecrets Is the New WikiLeaks" (from https://newrepublic.com/article/163106/ddossecrets-new-wikileaks-julian-assange https://newrepublic.com/article/163106/d

by r721 4y ago

"DDoSecrets Is the New WikiLeaks" (from https://newrepublic.com/article/163106/ddossecrets-new-wikileaks-julian-assange https://newrepublic.com/article/163106/ddossecrets-new-wikil... (2021)) UPD Another news story from 2022: https://therecord.media/how-ddosecrets-built-the-go-to-home-for-russian-leaks/ https://therecord.media/how-ddosecrets-built-the-go-to-home-...

NKosmatos 4y ago
https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Distributed_Denial_of_Secrets https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Distributed_Denial_of_Secrets
- sdze 4y ago
  how stupid it is to use a common and known term to the public and inflate it with a completely different subject matter.
  - foul 4y ago
    Like Wikileaks' name. There was not really much "wiki" in wikileaks.
    - knowhy 4y ago
      > WikiLeaks originally used a "wiki" communal publication method, which ended by May 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#Staff,_name_and_founding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#Staff,_name_and_foun...
      - foul 4y ago
        Yeah, they installed mediawiki or something similar IIRC in the first years, but did they ever enabled public contributions through it? I recall the Assange committee have always tried to get the leaks through other means, the anonymous/encrypted version du jour of "send a letter to the newsroom".
vintermann 4y ago
They wish. (And the agencies backing them wish.) Wikileaks had the public backing of, and was composed of, people who had proved the painful way that they weren't working for governments or other established interests. Merely getting access to flashy hacks will never win DDoSecrets that. Assange paid a huge price for being the organization's public face, but it wasn't for nothing. It could never have worked as well as it did unless someone was willing to play that role.
- luma 4y ago
  Assange was directly working with Russian intelligence so let’s not pretend that they were somehow above politics.
  - vintermann 4y ago
    That is just a lie pushed by western intelligence agencies, popular because it deflects blame for a well-known electoral defeat. But I did not say they were above politics. On the contrary, they had very strong anti war, anti establishment politics, which they were credible about from their long public history as non-anonymous actors. (Which is also why we laugh at your unsubstantiated accusations that he worked for Putin.) DdoSecrets will never have that. God knows what they actually believe. They don't think it's important that you know, at least we know that.
  - aa-jv 4y ago
    Utter lies. You have zero evidence of this. This nonsense narrative is merely designed to deflect from the very real, heinously evil, war crimes that Americans commit on the regular, every twenty minutes, for the last twenty years - for which there is a lot of evidence you Americans choose to ignore in the rush to maintain pride in yourselves...
    - EdwardDiego 4y ago
    - TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago
_visgean 4y ago
I think the bigger trend is to cooperate with bigger news papers to leak larger data sets. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Consortium_of_Investigative_Journalists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Consortium_of_In...
DoItToMe81 4y ago
Bullshit. Unlike Wikileaks, of which the 'Russian intelligence' smear has never been substantiated, DDoSecrets works with organizations that are indirectly and directly financed by intelligence agencies and smears those outside of this information complex. Namely, Wikileaks. They work with the OCCRP, which is made up directly of intelligence shills like Radio Free Europe, and groups funded by the NED. That's the agency the CIA used to finance armed groups in Nicuragua after the Iran-Contra affair. This is not an independent organization.
- 0dayz 4y ago
  Source? It would sound more credible if you didn't poison the well, Wikileaks is far from a neutral organization[1]. Such as suggesting Syria chemical attack was false flag[2]. [1]https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia-ties https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia... [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks
  - argentier 4y ago
    Seymour Hersch came to similar conclusions, and was pilloried for it. By Bellingcat, the Western intelligence services' pet wikileaks. Assange did 'citizen journalism' wrong, and he has been deprived of normal human freedoms for more than a decade because of it, while never being charged of any crime. Even now he resides in quasi-solitary confinement in one of the UK's most notorious prisons, still he has never been charged with a crime. The treatment of Assange is, with Guantanomo Bay, an obvious and continuously damaging rebuke to the West's posturing about human rights and freedoms. In retrospect we should not have been surprised by the EU's blanket censorship of Russian media and 24/7 pro Ukrainian propaganda. What is happening to Assange is a warning to all of us. If we choose to pettifog about the definition of a journalist, or complain about political partisanship, we are missing the larger point completely.
    - 0dayz 4y ago
      Seymour Hersch, who has published 0 evidence for his claim about Syria chemical attack and also just happens to be defending Russia any chance he gets?[1] No wonder people would 'pilloried' him, because someone as well respected journalist as him should know better than just throw out conspiracies. Sorry but Assange treatment or mistreatment in jail has nothing to do with the credibility of WikiLeaks. And how this somehow has something to do with the Russian media and Ukrainian media is relevant, how exactly? The irony is that comments that are like this is most similar to that of propaganda, lose references, emotional appeal and creating a smokescreen to redirect people away. [1]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/seymour-hersh-interview-novichok-russian-hacking-9-11-nerve-agent-attack-a8459596.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/seymour-hersh-...
momirlan 4y ago
Rubbish, not when DDOS hacked GoFundMe, exposing Freedom Convoy donors in order to help Justin Turdeau's irresponsible government shut down public dissent in Canada. That put them squarely in the far-left, antidemocratic, not to mention criminal activist category. As if we didn't know that already

by r721 4y ago

NKosmatos 4y ago

https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Distributed_Denial_of_Secrets https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Distributed_Denial_of_Secrets

sdze 4y ago
how stupid it is to use a common and known term to the public and inflate it with a completely different subject matter.
- foul 4y ago
  Like Wikileaks' name. There was not really much "wiki" in wikileaks.
  - knowhy 4y ago
    > WikiLeaks originally used a "wiki" communal publication method, which ended by May 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#Staff,_name_and_founding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#Staff,_name_and_foun...
    - foul 4y ago
      Yeah, they installed mediawiki or something similar IIRC in the first years, but did they ever enabled public contributions through it? I recall the Assange committee have always tried to get the leaks through other means, the anonymous/encrypted version du jour of "send a letter to the newsroom".

vintermann 4y ago

They wish. (And the agencies backing them wish.) Wikileaks had the public backing of, and was composed of, people who had proved the painful way that they weren't working for governments or other established interests. Merely getting access to flashy hacks will never win DDoSecrets that. Assange paid a huge price for being the organization's public face, but it wasn't for nothing. It could never have worked as well as it did unless someone was willing to play that role.

luma 4y ago
Assange was directly working with Russian intelligence so let’s not pretend that they were somehow above politics.
- vintermann 4y ago
  That is just a lie pushed by western intelligence agencies, popular because it deflects blame for a well-known electoral defeat. But I did not say they were above politics. On the contrary, they had very strong anti war, anti establishment politics, which they were credible about from their long public history as non-anonymous actors. (Which is also why we laugh at your unsubstantiated accusations that he worked for Putin.) DdoSecrets will never have that. God knows what they actually believe. They don't think it's important that you know, at least we know that.
- aa-jv 4y ago
  Utter lies. You have zero evidence of this. This nonsense narrative is merely designed to deflect from the very real, heinously evil, war crimes that Americans commit on the regular, every twenty minutes, for the last twenty years - for which there is a lot of evidence you Americans choose to ignore in the rush to maintain pride in yourselves...
  - EdwardDiego 4y ago
  - TEP_Kim_Il_Sung 4y ago

_visgean 4y ago

I think the bigger trend is to cooperate with bigger news papers to leak larger data sets. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Consortium_of_Investigative_Journalists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Consortium_of_In...

DoItToMe81 4y ago

Bullshit. Unlike Wikileaks, of which the 'Russian intelligence' smear has never been substantiated, DDoSecrets works with organizations that are indirectly and directly financed by intelligence agencies and smears those outside of this information complex. Namely, Wikileaks. They work with the OCCRP, which is made up directly of intelligence shills like Radio Free Europe, and groups funded by the NED. That's the agency the CIA used to finance armed groups in Nicuragua after the Iran-Contra affair. This is not an independent organization.

0dayz 4y ago
Source? It would sound more credible if you didn't poison the well, Wikileaks is far from a neutral organization[1]. Such as suggesting Syria chemical attack was false flag[2]. [1]https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia-ties https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia... [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks
- argentier 4y ago
  Seymour Hersch came to similar conclusions, and was pilloried for it. By Bellingcat, the Western intelligence services' pet wikileaks. Assange did 'citizen journalism' wrong, and he has been deprived of normal human freedoms for more than a decade because of it, while never being charged of any crime. Even now he resides in quasi-solitary confinement in one of the UK's most notorious prisons, still he has never been charged with a crime. The treatment of Assange is, with Guantanomo Bay, an obvious and continuously damaging rebuke to the West's posturing about human rights and freedoms. In retrospect we should not have been surprised by the EU's blanket censorship of Russian media and 24/7 pro Ukrainian propaganda. What is happening to Assange is a warning to all of us. If we choose to pettifog about the definition of a journalist, or complain about political partisanship, we are missing the larger point completely.
  - 0dayz 4y ago
    Seymour Hersch, who has published 0 evidence for his claim about Syria chemical attack and also just happens to be defending Russia any chance he gets?[1] No wonder people would 'pilloried' him, because someone as well respected journalist as him should know better than just throw out conspiracies. Sorry but Assange treatment or mistreatment in jail has nothing to do with the credibility of WikiLeaks. And how this somehow has something to do with the Russian media and Ukrainian media is relevant, how exactly? The irony is that comments that are like this is most similar to that of propaganda, lose references, emotional appeal and creating a smokescreen to redirect people away. [1]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/seymour-hersh-interview-novichok-russian-hacking-9-11-nerve-agent-attack-a8459596.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/seymour-hersh-...

momirlan 4y ago

Rubbish, not when DDOS hacked GoFundMe, exposing Freedom Convoy donors in order to help Justin Turdeau's irresponsible government shut down public dissent in Canada. That put them squarely in the far-left, antidemocratic, not to mention criminal activist category. As if we didn't know that already