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The ancient japanese governments restricted the peasants from destroying the allmende. No hunting with weapons, only traps. No chopping down trees. Its the only

The ancient japanese governments restricted the peasants from destroying the allmende. No hunting with weapons, only traps. No chopping down trees. Its the only way a society on a island with limitations can thrive. This is a hack to circumvent the no lumbering rule. As far as im aware, similar rules never were applied in europe, just all things chopped down, and then some state forrests and macchia.

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tpm 4y ago
Certainly no hunting with weapons (no anything with weapons really) did apply in feudal Europe; the nobles were allowed to carry and use a weapon while the peasants were not. As for the trees, that was managed by the feudal owner of the land. Usually some forests were cut down early (between ca. 500-1300 AD) where arable land was under them, the rest was managed and used for construction and heating/cooking. Later many forests were completely cleared at the beginning of the industrial revolution to manufacture charcoal, used in many industrial processes. Some of them are now regrown.
- qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
  Thats medieval northern europe, aka france, germany, england. The rest, the forrest was basically used up permanently during roman times. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macchie https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macchie
  - tpm 4y ago
    Also Ireland, Czechia, Poland, Slovakia, parts of Hungary, Romania, Ukraine at least that I know of. But you are right, I thought of the Roman times immediately after finishing my comment.
actionfromafar 4y ago
Oak forrests were very controlled in many European countries, for national security reasons. (Needed to make war ships.)
flanked-evergl 4y ago
> allmende Can't find this word in any English dictionary I checked, what does it mean?
- pgh 4y ago
  It’s German meaning “commons" - communal lands.
  - spopejoy 4y ago
    Alemania(SP)/Allemagne(FR) for Germany -- must be related??
    - pgh 4y ago
      Similar etymology, I would suppose “All mans” https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamans https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamans
- rastamutta 4y ago
  It sounds a lot like "allmänning", which means common land (obviously)

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tpm 4y ago

Certainly no hunting with weapons (no anything with weapons really) did apply in feudal Europe; the nobles were allowed to carry and use a weapon while the peasants were not. As for the trees, that was managed by the feudal owner of the land. Usually some forests were cut down early (between ca. 500-1300 AD) where arable land was under them, the rest was managed and used for construction and heating/cooking. Later many forests were completely cleared at the beginning of the industrial revolution to manufacture charcoal, used in many industrial processes. Some of them are now regrown.

qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
Thats medieval northern europe, aka france, germany, england. The rest, the forrest was basically used up permanently during roman times. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macchie https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macchie
- tpm 4y ago
  Also Ireland, Czechia, Poland, Slovakia, parts of Hungary, Romania, Ukraine at least that I know of. But you are right, I thought of the Roman times immediately after finishing my comment.

actionfromafar 4y ago

Oak forrests were very controlled in many European countries, for national security reasons. (Needed to make war ships.)

flanked-evergl 4y ago

> allmende Can't find this word in any English dictionary I checked, what does it mean?

pgh 4y ago
It’s German meaning “commons" - communal lands.
- spopejoy 4y ago
  Alemania(SP)/Allemagne(FR) for Germany -- must be related??
  - pgh 4y ago
    Similar etymology, I would suppose “All mans” https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamans https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamans
rastamutta 4y ago
It sounds a lot like "allmänning", which means common land (obviously)