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There's a lot of things in here that are either vast exaggerations ("need a designer") or simply factually untrue (WinRT = goodbye .NET). By the time that Win8

There's a lot of things in here that are either vast exaggerations ("need a designer") or simply factually untrue (WinRT = goodbye .NET). By the time that Win8 ships, .NET 2.0 will be six years old - do you really expect them to support it in the latest OS forever?

mappu 15y ago
Yes, i do. In fact, this is one of the biggest drawcards to windows. For instance, Windows 8 still ships their VB6 runtime from 1998.
CurtHagenlocher 15y ago
To be clear, Windows 8 desktop mode will almost certainly support .NET 2.0 apps; it just won't ship with that version of the CLR. Disclaimer: I work at Microsoft (and yes, I know you did too), but this claim is based on my perceptions and should not be considered a statement of fact.
- xpaulbettsx 15y ago
  This is very true, but I was defining support in the sense of "I double click my app, and it works without any extra downloading on my part"
ComputerGuru 15y ago
It won't ship with (out of the box) support for .NET 3.5 apps either - and that shipped for the first time with Windows 7. As far as needing a designer goes - perhaps not, but in comparison to SWF, certainly. With SWF, you dragged-and-dropped standard Windows controls we all know and love to a form, did the bindings to event handlers, and that was the end of it. XAML places a much larger burden on the developer. Sure, it gives you the ability to create more flexible layouts, but at a tremendous cost. You have to actively design your application's user interface from a much, much lower level up. .NET's biggest draw was the RAD factor, but with XAML/WPF, a lot of that for utilites and other smaller applications with GUIs was left behind. There's certainly nothing RAD-esque about WPF.
- wluu 15y ago
  A recent post on Win Rumors mentions that a future beta release of Windows 8 will include .NET 3.5 - http://www.winrumors.com/leaked-windows-8-pre-beta-install-screenshots-demonstrate-theme-color-picker/ http://www.winrumors.com/leaked-windows-8-pre-beta-install-s... "Windows Media Center will also return to Windows 8 beta alongside the typical Windows games, DVD creator and .NET 3.5. All were missing from the developer preview, made available in September."
  - ComputerGuru 15y ago
    Thank you. They say not to shoot the messenger of bad news, but I think it's more than fair to upvote the bearer of good tidings. You've made my day.

mappu 15y ago

Yes, i do. In fact, this is one of the biggest drawcards to windows. For instance, Windows 8 still ships their VB6 runtime from 1998.

CurtHagenlocher 15y ago

To be clear, Windows 8 desktop mode will almost certainly support .NET 2.0 apps; it just won't ship with that version of the CLR. Disclaimer: I work at Microsoft (and yes, I know you did too), but this claim is based on my perceptions and should not be considered a statement of fact.

xpaulbettsx 15y ago
This is very true, but I was defining support in the sense of "I double click my app, and it works without any extra downloading on my part"

ComputerGuru 15y ago

It won't ship with (out of the box) support for .NET 3.5 apps either - and that shipped for the first time with Windows 7. As far as needing a designer goes - perhaps not, but in comparison to SWF, certainly. With SWF, you dragged-and-dropped standard Windows controls we all know and love to a form, did the bindings to event handlers, and that was the end of it. XAML places a much larger burden on the developer. Sure, it gives you the ability to create more flexible layouts, but at a tremendous cost. You have to actively design your application's user interface from a much, much lower level up. .NET's biggest draw was the RAD factor, but with XAML/WPF, a lot of that for utilites and other smaller applications with GUIs was left behind. There's certainly nothing RAD-esque about WPF.

wluu 15y ago
A recent post on Win Rumors mentions that a future beta release of Windows 8 will include .NET 3.5 - http://www.winrumors.com/leaked-windows-8-pre-beta-install-screenshots-demonstrate-theme-color-picker/ http://www.winrumors.com/leaked-windows-8-pre-beta-install-s... "Windows Media Center will also return to Windows 8 beta alongside the typical Windows games, DVD creator and .NET 3.5. All were missing from the developer preview, made available in September."
- ComputerGuru 15y ago
  Thank you. They say not to shoot the messenger of bad news, but I think it's more than fair to upvote the bearer of good tidings. You've made my day.