It's a little different - I don't personally identify as part of the EA movement because of the associated baggage, but the ideas around trying to do the most g

It's a little different - I don't personally identify as part of the EA movement because of the associated baggage, but the ideas around trying to do the most good, extending empathy beyond kin/culture to other people suffering that you cannot see, and reasoning about the effectiveness of charity make sense to me. Without getting into a flame war not fit for HN, the same cannot be said for the supernatural foundations and epistemic claims of religions - the foundational ideas of EA are not the problem in this case. I think Sam Harris breaks it down decently here: https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/303-the-fall-of-sam-bankman-fried https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/303... though that's a little out of date with how fast news on the topic is moving. It's also another reminder why it's good to keep your identity small [0] and deal with the ideas directly. Said another way: "Go three-quarters of the way from deontology to utilitarianism and then stop. You are now in the right place. Stay there at least until you have become a god."[1] [0]: http://www.paulgraham.com/identity.html http://www.paulgraham.com/identity.html [1]: https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1497157447219232768?s=20&t=7fULq3NXML7gb2O4OMpGjA https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1497157447219232768?s...