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>Web 3/3.0 was invented by finance bros Web3, not Web 3.0, not the same thing at all, the latter is the next incarnation of Tim Berners-Lee's vision for the we

by Renaud 4y ago

>Web 3/3.0 was invented by finance bros Web3, not Web 3.0, not the same thing at all, the latter is the next incarnation of Tim Berners-Lee's vision for the web and has nothing to do with finance and crypto bros. It's important to make the distinction because 3.0 is actually important.

itslennysfault 4y ago
Honestly...... 3.0 is actually dead on arrival thanks to the proliferation of "Web3" the brand damage is done and "3.0" should find a new name ASAP.
- mkl95 4y ago
  Imo Web 3.0 is Webtransport / Webassembly / WebGPU. But Web 2.0+ may be a more fitting name.
  - rhn_mk1 4y ago
    I was thinking that web 3 would be fitting for ActivityPub, WebTorrent, Namecoin and IPFS.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      No? ActivityPub is a protocol over HTTP - that's solidly last-gen. IPFS is caught between iterations but IMO is solidly Web2, and WebTorrent/Namecoin are abstractions over pre-existing technology. I think that's appropriate for a Web2.1 starter-pack, maybe.
      - rhn_mk1 4y ago
        What's next-gen is the federation, as opposed to the centralization of the current-gen. HTTP has nothing to do with it, even the "semantic 3.0" didn't ditch it.
        smoldesu 4y ago
        That's not next-gen. Federation has existed since the 90s in the form of P2P trackers and other networking paradigms. HTTP has everything to do with it because Mastodon is built on a client-server model (not a peer-to-peer one) which is the textbook definition of a Web2 network.
        rhn_mk1 4y ago
        When web 2.0 entered the picture, it didn't bring in anything new either, but represented a different focus. I think my proposal makes sense as "3.0" because similarly, there's not much new except a new focus in it.
  - angry_moose 4y ago
    Wikipedia uses Semantic Web: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web They really don't even distinguish between Web3/3.0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3
linuxdude314 4y ago
Not very many people make this distinction… As far as optics and media perception (which is unfortunately what matters for the cultural zeitgeist) most understand Web3 to be the next generation incarnation of the web.

by Renaud 4y ago

itslennysfault 4y ago

Honestly...... 3.0 is actually dead on arrival thanks to the proliferation of "Web3" the brand damage is done and "3.0" should find a new name ASAP.

mkl95 4y ago
Imo Web 3.0 is Webtransport / Webassembly / WebGPU. But Web 2.0+ may be a more fitting name.
- rhn_mk1 4y ago
  I was thinking that web 3 would be fitting for ActivityPub, WebTorrent, Namecoin and IPFS.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    No? ActivityPub is a protocol over HTTP - that's solidly last-gen. IPFS is caught between iterations but IMO is solidly Web2, and WebTorrent/Namecoin are abstractions over pre-existing technology. I think that's appropriate for a Web2.1 starter-pack, maybe.
    - rhn_mk1 4y ago
      What's next-gen is the federation, as opposed to the centralization of the current-gen. HTTP has nothing to do with it, even the "semantic 3.0" didn't ditch it.
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        That's not next-gen. Federation has existed since the 90s in the form of P2P trackers and other networking paradigms. HTTP has everything to do with it because Mastodon is built on a client-server model (not a peer-to-peer one) which is the textbook definition of a Web2 network.
        rhn_mk1 4y ago
        When web 2.0 entered the picture, it didn't bring in anything new either, but represented a different focus. I think my proposal makes sense as "3.0" because similarly, there's not much new except a new focus in it.
- angry_moose 4y ago
  Wikipedia uses Semantic Web: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web They really don't even distinguish between Web3/3.0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3

linuxdude314 4y ago

Not very many people make this distinction… As far as optics and media perception (which is unfortunately what matters for the cultural zeitgeist) most understand Web3 to be the next generation incarnation of the web.