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> Web 3.0 is Tim Berners Lee's vision for a decentralized web: TBL is not the central arbiter of web 3, in much the same way he didn't have anything to do with

• ceejayoz 4y ago
  There's still an important distinction between "the semantic web" and "a bunch of cryptocurrency fuckery", both of which have been termed "Web 3" at times.
  • k__ 4y ago
    The distinction is that "the semantic web" went nowhere and "a bunch of crypto currency fuckery" has millions of users globally.
    • ceejayoz 4y ago
      I'm with you on the success (or lack thereof) of the semantic web. I don't consider gambling a good thing just because there are millions of gamblers. I feel the same about cryptocurrency.
      • k__ 4y ago
        How is using a decentralised Twitter alternative like Lens gambling? How is using a decentralised Zoom alternative like Huddle01 gambling? How is using a decentralised Pusher alternative like Push gambling? I agree, that in the last years most web3 apps focused on financial/blockchain specific use-cases. I also agree, that many of them had quite dubious claims. But that's not all there is and I think, that won't be the reason it will gain mainstream adoption.
        • ceejayoz 4y ago
          Which of those have the "millions of users" the upthread comment referred to?
          • k__ 4y ago
            Good point. The ones I wrote probably just have a few 10k max. Maybe, the Internet Archive is a better example millions of users?
            • ceejayoz 4y ago
              The Internet Archive is a web3 project? It was founded in 1996. Web 2.0 didn't exist then.
              • k__ 4y ago
                Obviously it didn't start as one, but projects can transition, right? Seemingly, the Internet Archive and Protocol Labs are bros. https://blog.archive.org/2021/04/01/filecoin-foundation-grants-50000-fil-to-the-internet-archive/ https://blog.archive.org/2021/04/01/filecoin-foundation-gran...
                • ceejayoz 4y ago
                  Have they used that Filecoin for anything beyond the press release?
                  • k__ 4y ago
                    They got this donation after they already build decentralized infra for years. It's all in the article. But yeah, I know, no true Scotsman.
    • kabdib 4y ago
      s/user/sucker/g
  • nailer 4y ago
    Web3 isn't about cryptocurrency, it's about owning your own identity instead of Google, Apple, Facebook.
    • ceejayoz 4y ago
      What "web3" project doesn't involve a cryptocurrency concept as a technological underpinning?
      • nailer 4y ago
        With a zero balance, identity. Identity is simply connecting to a wallet and reading a signed DID - the wallet could have zero balance and it still works. Boom you just signed into something without Google / Facebook / Apple. With close to a zero balance (but not quite zero) to pay transaction fees, you can do peer to peer encrypted messaging without central arbiters. With close to a zero balance (but not quite zero) to pay transaction fees, you can send vast quantities of stablecoins to the otherside of the world - that said a web3 skeptic may consider stablecoins to be a cryptocurrency (there's arguments either way, they're tokens but not minted via proof of stake) and capitalisation is an issue. Edit: reply to peoplefromibiza, who made some good points, due to rate limit: > wallets are a cryptocurrency concept yes, agreed. But they do a lot more than let you speculate on cryptocurrencies. Right now I'm working on wallet for people who have zero interest in speculating on cryptocurrencies. > you can do the same thing with a client certificate yes agreed. You can think of web3 as a better PKI. I do.
        • peoplefromibiza 4y ago
          wallets are a crtptocurrency concept. you can do the same thing with a client certificate, boom, you are who the cert says you are.
          • larsonnn 4y ago
            This.
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