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What's a succinct definition for Web3/3.0/etc that I can tell my mother in law in 20 secs? I don't actually know what it's meant to be.
by sys_64738 4y ago
What's a succinct definition for Web3/3.0/etc that I can tell my mother in law in 20 secs? I don't actually know what it's meant to be.
- nailer 4y agoYou own your identity instead of Google, Facebook, and Apple.
- JohnFen 4y agoI do that right now without any web3 stuff.
- k__ 4y agoWeb3 based apps where a company like Facebook or Instagram can't delete your content just because it might contain a nipple.
- pavlov 4y agoIt’s amazing how this description is entirely unrelated to the reality of the so-called web3. Not just “we’re still working out some of the details,” but literally none of it exists. It’s like you’re promised a grand night at the opera and the bus takes you to a roach-infested casino. “Music? We don’t need it, the slot machines make enough sound. Now are you going to buy some tokens?”
- smoldesu 4y agoEntirely this. And when it comes time to show success stories, they co-opt other decentralized tech like IPFS or DID. None of that needs a blockchain to operate and does just fine without implementing one. Web3 is truly DOA.
- k__ 4y agoAgain, web3 isn't just blockchains. IPFS is a fundamental web3 tech since it's inception, even it's creators from Protocol Labs say so. Just because you like it more than blockchains doesn't mean it's not part of web3. IOTA uses hashgraphs. ArWeave uses blockweaves. IPFS uses DAG.
- pavlov 4y agoAnd let’s not forget SMTP which is a core part of web3 because it’s a decentralized protocol after all. What amazing foresight they had in 1980 to build a web3 protocol before web1 even existed!
- smoldesu 4y agoSorry, but Web3 can't simply adopt whatever definition is convenient for the present arguement (no 'Metaverse' moment for you). IPFS can adopt whatever identity it wants, but simply wanting to usurp HTTP doesn't make it "Web3 tech since it's inception". It sounds like they're doing a great job driving the project into irrelevance, for whatever that's worth. I don't think your definition of Web3 is generally agreeable.
- k__ 4y agoTo me it seems that most critics have the impression that web3 is blockchains, and the moment someone says it isn't, they get mad because they arguments break down. I was on web3 conferences and met all the creators of these technologies that consider themselves web3 but aren't considered web3 by critics of web3. What should I make of it?
- k__ 4y agoArDrive, Lens Protocol, Huddle01, Radicle, Farcaster... it's all out there.
- hailwren 4y agoThis seems like rhetoric. Have you tried looking? Counterexamples: lens.xyz, farcaster.xyz, urbit.org
- k__ 4y agoYou can't say something that's generally beloved like Urbit! By the logic of web3 critics, everything they consider 'good' isn't part of web3.
- pavlov 4y agoIs this sarcasm? Urbit is one of the most obfuscated and bizarre software projects in history. It makes TempleOS look like a model of clarity and common sense. If Urbit is now a flag-bearer for web3, I don’t think the aforementioned mother-in-law will have to worry about trying to understand this stuff during her lifetime.
- k__ 4y agoInteresting! Didn't know that. I just read that some people here were like "I really wanna try Urbit".
- hailwren 4y agoYou moved the goalposts a fair amount between > Not just “we’re still working out some of the details,” but literally none of it exists. and > flag-bearer for web3 These are projects that are attempting solutions. I wasn’t claiming they work, but they’re figuring things out and seeing what needs to be rebuilt to get a working social model on top of web3.
- PhasmaFelis 4y agoA content service that anyone can post to and no one can delete from. Sounds great. Someone posts child porn. Now everyone hosting that decentralized data is literally distributing child porn, and they can't stop without deleting the service from their device. Some people are thinking that maintaining a safe haven for child pornographers is a small price to pay for absolute digital freedom. They are the reason that things like this will never work.
- Sohcahtoa82 4y agoLiterally the reason I abandoned Freenet shortly after I started playing around with it in like...2010 I think? It feels like it was created for the purpose of distributing CSAM.
- g147 4y agoi feel your pain. i myself spent quite some time writing this blog and still ended up causing confusion. These terms are quite interchangeably used at various places by various people. But yeah keep an eye on this thread and you might just find some right & easy definitions. good luck!
- spaceman_2020 4y agoOwning your digital identity instead of renting it.
- giantrobot 4y agoWeb3 services are 900 numbers. Every use of whatever service costs you money.