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That was never the case, seems the article you linked is based on a misunderstanding. See https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/11/apple-t2-chip-cant-boot-linux http

That was never the case, seems the article you linked is based on a misunderstanding. See https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/11/apple-t2-chip-cant-boot-linux https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/11/apple-t2-chip-cant-boot-... Even with the T2 chip, it was possible to turn off Secure Boot 100% so you could boot whatever operating system you wanted. Just as a disclaimer, I'm no Apple fanboy, I stopped using their software/OS even before I got rid of my last MacBook, and since 2018 or something haven't been using the hardware neither and only use a Mac for testing various software I develop. So I don't normally defend anything they are doing. But right should be right; they have never previously tried to stop people from running whatever OS they want on their computer hardware so guessing they suddenly would start, feels like a pretty far-out guess.

dijit 4y ago
I tried to do this myself, I was greeted with a fan that was on 100%, a non-functioning keyboard and trackpad and USB ports that were roughly half functional. It's a falsehood to say it was allowed. It was possible but very much not how you seem to imply.
- capableweb 4y ago
  That sounds like the kernel/distro you were using didn't quite support the hardware you were trying to use, rather than a problem of a company trying to prevent you from booting a OS on said device.
  - dijit 4y ago
    I never claimed they were trying to keep us of, more that they didn't care at all, the T2 chip was a major change and basically didn't function like anything that existed. The reason I said it was a "worrisome trend" is because with the switch to M1: Apple would need to intentionally leave in a back-door if people had a chance of booting alternative operating systems. Since they had not shown any interest in supporting alternative operating systems (outside of Bootcamp, which we knew was going away too) then it could be reasonably assumed that they would do no extra work to allow alternative operating systems at all. Since it was extra work, and since they had not shown any care before.
- galad87 4y ago
  That was because of missing drivers, or drivers that needed to be modified a bit (like the nvme driver), it had nothing to do with a locked down boot loader.
  - dijit 4y ago
    Not sure where you got that I said it was a boot loader problem. I’m not sure if you’re deliberately missing the point either. The point was that the trend seemed to be locked down devices more and more, not that it was impossible before; just that it was getting more and more difficult- and that it was already difficult on arm platforms.
    - nemothekid 4y ago
      If your keyboard and trackpad is non-functional that means you are missing drivers. Apple is not preventing you from dual booting, but Apple is also not going to write drivers for their trackpad for linux. Apple is not locking the system down, but they are saying if you want it to work on Linux, write the drivers yourself. This is exactly what is happening with Asahi linux. The ARM bootloader to install Linux, but they aren't helping the Asahi linux developers write a GPU driver. They are not locking the platform down, they are simply saying you can do what you want, but don't expect any help from us.
    - galad87 4y ago
      The article you linked said so.

dijit 4y ago

I tried to do this myself, I was greeted with a fan that was on 100%, a non-functioning keyboard and trackpad and USB ports that were roughly half functional. It's a falsehood to say it was allowed. It was possible but very much not how you seem to imply.

capableweb 4y ago
That sounds like the kernel/distro you were using didn't quite support the hardware you were trying to use, rather than a problem of a company trying to prevent you from booting a OS on said device.
- dijit 4y ago
  I never claimed they were trying to keep us of, more that they didn't care at all, the T2 chip was a major change and basically didn't function like anything that existed. The reason I said it was a "worrisome trend" is because with the switch to M1: Apple would need to intentionally leave in a back-door if people had a chance of booting alternative operating systems. Since they had not shown any interest in supporting alternative operating systems (outside of Bootcamp, which we knew was going away too) then it could be reasonably assumed that they would do no extra work to allow alternative operating systems at all. Since it was extra work, and since they had not shown any care before.
galad87 4y ago
That was because of missing drivers, or drivers that needed to be modified a bit (like the nvme driver), it had nothing to do with a locked down boot loader.
- dijit 4y ago
  Not sure where you got that I said it was a boot loader problem. I’m not sure if you’re deliberately missing the point either. The point was that the trend seemed to be locked down devices more and more, not that it was impossible before; just that it was getting more and more difficult- and that it was already difficult on arm platforms.
  - nemothekid 4y ago
    If your keyboard and trackpad is non-functional that means you are missing drivers. Apple is not preventing you from dual booting, but Apple is also not going to write drivers for their trackpad for linux. Apple is not locking the system down, but they are saying if you want it to work on Linux, write the drivers yourself. This is exactly what is happening with Asahi linux. The ARM bootloader to install Linux, but they aren't helping the Asahi linux developers write a GPU driver. They are not locking the platform down, they are simply saying you can do what you want, but don't expect any help from us.
  - galad87 4y ago
    The article you linked said so.