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If you're looking for good right wing comics, you're not going to hear about them from Hollywood or the Mass Media. Look for them on YouTube or somewhere where

by HKH2 4y ago

If you're looking for good right wing comics, you're not going to hear about them from Hollywood or the Mass Media. Look for them on YouTube or somewhere where you won't get deplatformed for making a joke. People can't even handle sets from Dave Chappelle or Ricky Gervais without calling for a boycott.

smcl 4y ago
These are interesting examples, because Dave Chappelle was a genuinely good comic but he had a rocky comeback after a prolonged absence (understandable) took it badly and started lashing out at kids-these-days, then "cancel culture" and then drifted into what we see today. Ricky Gervais has written some pretty spectacular comedy, but his stand-up has never been particularly well respected. He has often tried to go for shock value, but it's never been that shocking (certainly nothing like Jerry Sadowitz), creative or - most importantly - funny. None of these guys got suddenly deplatformed, cancelled or boycotted because of a joke. They struggled a bit, made some missteps then blamed their audience and "cancel culture" when it wasn't well received. They can still be funny, but when they're airing their grievances about that (i.e. doing the stuff that the right like) it's obvious, awkward and a bit painful.
- HKH2 4y ago
  I don't care what critics think. If a comedian makes me laugh, I'll have to concede that they're funny. If they make people clap instead of laugh, they're probably not that funny.
  - smcl 4y ago
    That's fair. I'm still not sure who would be an example of a good right-wing comic, though. Most of what I’ve seen involved material that’s repetitive (how many by now have delivered a variant of the One Conservative Joke - “I identify as an attack helicopter”?) and was designed to make the viewer validated in their right-wing beliefs at the expense of, say, some clueless “libtard” rather than exploring the form at all (ie it’s to make you “clap”). I dunno, I saw someone complaining about left-wing comedians was curious to hear who might be a right-wing comic.
    - HKH2 4y ago
      There are quite a few decent ones that are not overtly political that you might enjoy, like Ryan Long. > Most of what I’ve seen involved material that’s repetitive (how many by now have delivered a variant of the One Conservative Joke - “I identify as an attack helicopter”?) and was designed to make the viewer validated in their right-wing beliefs at the expense of, say, some clueless “libtard” rather than exploring the form at all (ie it’s to make you “clap”). I agree that validating beliefs makes for boring comedy.
      - smcl 4y ago
        Will check when I'm less in "analytical" mode - that's probably not a fair state of mind to check a comic out in :)

by HKH2 4y ago

smcl 4y ago

These are interesting examples, because Dave Chappelle was a genuinely good comic but he had a rocky comeback after a prolonged absence (understandable) took it badly and started lashing out at kids-these-days, then "cancel culture" and then drifted into what we see today. Ricky Gervais has written some pretty spectacular comedy, but his stand-up has never been particularly well respected. He has often tried to go for shock value, but it's never been that shocking (certainly nothing like Jerry Sadowitz), creative or - most importantly - funny. None of these guys got suddenly deplatformed, cancelled or boycotted because of a joke. They struggled a bit, made some missteps then blamed their audience and "cancel culture" when it wasn't well received. They can still be funny, but when they're airing their grievances about that (i.e. doing the stuff that the right like) it's obvious, awkward and a bit painful.

HKH2 4y ago
I don't care what critics think. If a comedian makes me laugh, I'll have to concede that they're funny. If they make people clap instead of laugh, they're probably not that funny.
- smcl 4y ago
  That's fair. I'm still not sure who would be an example of a good right-wing comic, though. Most of what I’ve seen involved material that’s repetitive (how many by now have delivered a variant of the One Conservative Joke - “I identify as an attack helicopter”?) and was designed to make the viewer validated in their right-wing beliefs at the expense of, say, some clueless “libtard” rather than exploring the form at all (ie it’s to make you “clap”). I dunno, I saw someone complaining about left-wing comedians was curious to hear who might be a right-wing comic.
  - HKH2 4y ago
    There are quite a few decent ones that are not overtly political that you might enjoy, like Ryan Long. > Most of what I’ve seen involved material that’s repetitive (how many by now have delivered a variant of the One Conservative Joke - “I identify as an attack helicopter”?) and was designed to make the viewer validated in their right-wing beliefs at the expense of, say, some clueless “libtard” rather than exploring the form at all (ie it’s to make you “clap”). I agree that validating beliefs makes for boring comedy.
    - smcl 4y ago
      Will check when I'm less in "analytical" mode - that's probably not a fair state of mind to check a comic out in :)