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Given that Twitter already offered premium API access, they've got billing in place, so now they add a new form that, once your credit card is verified, flicks

Given that Twitter already offered premium API access, they've got billing in place, so now they add a new form that, once your credit card is verified, flicks a boolean on an account that was previously flicked by another process. It might not be small, but it's not exactly huge.

fomine3 4y ago
Blue is paid by in app purchase that seems to haven't implemented until that. Its functionality is far from premium API access.
- EdwardDiego 4y ago
  As I said, a new form. They already had billing integration, even if you're accessing it via a new route, and they already had a boolean on your account. Like I said, not small, but not exactly huge either.
  - sundvor 4y ago
    Except there was a crapload of social engineering testing around this feature that was just skipped altogether. Suddenly that simple change had the potential for catastrophic consequences.
    - EdwardDiego 4y ago
      Yep, doing it right would've been harder, but Musk was after doing it right now.
      - sundvor 4y ago
        I guess you could say doing it right wasn't exactly rocket science.
        EdwardDiego 4y ago
        /golf clap.
afavour 4y ago
It’s more than that. For one it’s not an existing boolean, there are now two different kinds of blue tick that are presumably stored separately. Blue is also supposed to give the user fewer ads (while making them more relevant) as well as additional weight in feed ranking algorithms. It’s also intended to be offered worldwide which adds a lot of complication to things like payment flows. I’m not saying it’s going to bring the site down tomorrow but that one feature touches on a lot of services.
- EdwardDiego 4y ago
  I imagine their premium API was also available worldwide. Okay, so two booleans, and checks of those booleans in a couple of algorithms. This still isn't a huge change, it's not completely new functionality. Once again, not saying it's small, but it definitely isn't huge.
  - afavour 4y ago
    Clearly worldwide payments is an issue otherwise they’d have rolled it out worldwide day one, and they didn’t. There must be something holding that back. Plus I really don’t think you can compare B2B payments for premium API access to end user payments. Not least because they aren’t going to be going the same route: a huge number of them will be via Apple or Google in-app purchasing. Ask anyone who works with those systems, it isn’t a quick plug and play job. In general though, a new subscription tier, feed algorithm changes, UI changes… if these aren’t, what is a big change in your book?

fomine3 4y ago

Blue is paid by in app purchase that seems to haven't implemented until that. Its functionality is far from premium API access.

EdwardDiego 4y ago
As I said, a new form. They already had billing integration, even if you're accessing it via a new route, and they already had a boolean on your account. Like I said, not small, but not exactly huge either.
- sundvor 4y ago
  Except there was a crapload of social engineering testing around this feature that was just skipped altogether. Suddenly that simple change had the potential for catastrophic consequences.
  - EdwardDiego 4y ago
    Yep, doing it right would've been harder, but Musk was after doing it right now.
    - sundvor 4y ago
      I guess you could say doing it right wasn't exactly rocket science.
      - EdwardDiego 4y ago
        /golf clap.

afavour 4y ago

It’s more than that. For one it’s not an existing boolean, there are now two different kinds of blue tick that are presumably stored separately. Blue is also supposed to give the user fewer ads (while making them more relevant) as well as additional weight in feed ranking algorithms. It’s also intended to be offered worldwide which adds a lot of complication to things like payment flows. I’m not saying it’s going to bring the site down tomorrow but that one feature touches on a lot of services.

EdwardDiego 4y ago
I imagine their premium API was also available worldwide. Okay, so two booleans, and checks of those booleans in a couple of algorithms. This still isn't a huge change, it's not completely new functionality. Once again, not saying it's small, but it definitely isn't huge.
- afavour 4y ago
  Clearly worldwide payments is an issue otherwise they’d have rolled it out worldwide day one, and they didn’t. There must be something holding that back. Plus I really don’t think you can compare B2B payments for premium API access to end user payments. Not least because they aren’t going to be going the same route: a huge number of them will be via Apple or Google in-app purchasing. Ask anyone who works with those systems, it isn’t a quick plug and play job. In general though, a new subscription tier, feed algorithm changes, UI changes… if these aren’t, what is a big change in your book?