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What a nightmare. Truly americans live in a dystopia. Not a cool one, either.

by superchroma 4y ago

mrlatinos 4y ago
Mostly just California and New York.
- fnordpiglet 4y ago
  And in states without public health care.
  - frmrcnck 4y ago
    The US public spending per capita is the highest (by far) in the world. The problem is not lack of public health care. At least not lack of money. (My pet theory is that Americans, for all their amazing talents and qualities, are terrible administrators. By comparison I grew up in Canada, which Im not fond of, but where you can get a drivers license in 15 minutes or a passport in a day) https://www.statista.com/statistics/283221/per-capita-health-expenditure-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/283221/per-capita-health...
    - fnordpiglet 4y ago
      It’s unclear what they’re counting as public dollars on health care but I assure you none exists unless you qualify for special programs like Medicare or medicaid. Perhaps they’re including public research money and other subsidies for medicine? I find it implausible Medicare / Medicaid costs $10k/ year / person. We pay for these out of our income and it’s not nearly this much.
- miguelazo 4y ago
  Much, much worse in red states. I know from experience.
  - nephanth 4y ago
    small parenthesis, the "red state" expression always amuses me knowing that where I’m from, red places are places that actually vote for the reds (those reds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Communist_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Communist_Party)
frmrcnck 4y ago
Well, there are worse places. Ive fled to the US from Canada, for example. Dystopia seems to be a Commonwealth thing, really. Take Australia. For decades they've bribed a poor country to keep a concentration camp where they throw brown people in. "Its ok" they said, "legally these people never made it ashore", "Australia is full". Canberra even distributed cute little cartoons in Bangladesh about how sadistic the Australian response is to would be refugees. Then the COVID hit and Australia got its own internal checkpoints and concentration camps. Funny how the crimes committed abroad circle back. The US has its problems, sure. But I grew up in four different countries in as many continents before coming here for grad school. As far as I can tell, America's the best. And flyover America the best of the best. Therefore, I am honored that in a few weeks time Ill say an oath of loyalty to my fellow citizens and promise to protect our homeland's honor from enemies foreign, domestic and hypocrites wherever they may be.
- superchroma 4y ago
  I'm glad you found somewhere you fit right in.

What a nightmare. Truly americans live in a dystopia. Not a cool one, either.

mrlatinos 4y ago

Mostly just California and New York.

fnordpiglet 4y ago
And in states without public health care.
- frmrcnck 4y ago
  The US public spending per capita is the highest (by far) in the world. The problem is not lack of public health care. At least not lack of money. (My pet theory is that Americans, for all their amazing talents and qualities, are terrible administrators. By comparison I grew up in Canada, which Im not fond of, but where you can get a drivers license in 15 minutes or a passport in a day) https://www.statista.com/statistics/283221/per-capita-health-expenditure-by-country/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/283221/per-capita-health...
  - fnordpiglet 4y ago
    It’s unclear what they’re counting as public dollars on health care but I assure you none exists unless you qualify for special programs like Medicare or medicaid. Perhaps they’re including public research money and other subsidies for medicine? I find it implausible Medicare / Medicaid costs $10k/ year / person. We pay for these out of our income and it’s not nearly this much.
miguelazo 4y ago
Much, much worse in red states. I know from experience.
- nephanth 4y ago
  small parenthesis, the "red state" expression always amuses me knowing that where I’m from, red places are places that actually vote for the reds (those reds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Communist_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Communist_Party)

frmrcnck 4y ago

Well, there are worse places. Ive fled to the US from Canada, for example. Dystopia seems to be a Commonwealth thing, really. Take Australia. For decades they've bribed a poor country to keep a concentration camp where they throw brown people in. "Its ok" they said, "legally these people never made it ashore", "Australia is full". Canberra even distributed cute little cartoons in Bangladesh about how sadistic the Australian response is to would be refugees. Then the COVID hit and Australia got its own internal checkpoints and concentration camps. Funny how the crimes committed abroad circle back. The US has its problems, sure. But I grew up in four different countries in as many continents before coming here for grad school. As far as I can tell, America's the best. And flyover America the best of the best. Therefore, I am honored that in a few weeks time Ill say an oath of loyalty to my fellow citizens and promise to protect our homeland's honor from enemies foreign, domestic and hypocrites wherever they may be.

superchroma 4y ago
I'm glad you found somewhere you fit right in.