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Would people feel differently if we were talking about web apps, where nearly every click is sent to a server? Why is it egregious for a store to do analytics?

_23sd 4y ago
For one, because as another comment mentioned Apple's app store is the only option on iOS, so you can't opt out of it even if you really wanted to. I also find what Apple is doing particularly bad because the click data is associated with your account for a period of time decided by Apple (Edit: I said "permanently" before but that was wrong, it does expire but the privacy policy doesn't specify the exact retention period) and can't be deleted short of terminating the account. Compare how Google lets you disable or delete that kind of granular data from your account with the "Web and App Activity" switch.
- askafriend 4y ago
  1. "App Store browsing activity includes information like the content and apps you tap and view while browsing the App Store. This information is aggregated across users so that it does not identify you. We may also use local, on-device processing to select which ad to display, using information stored on your device, such as the apps you frequently open." 2. "To protect your privacy, targeted ads are delivered only if more than 5,000 people meet the targeting criteria. The information used to determine which ads are relevant to you is tied to random identifiers and not tied to your Apple ID." 3. "Apple’s advertising platform receives information about the ads you tap and view against a random identifier not tied to your Apple ID." 4. It's also possible to reset this random, unique identifier or turn off personalization entirely. Source: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/app-store/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/app-store/
  - _23sd 4y ago
    I think that section is about how the advertising system uses browsing activity, not how it's collected and stored. Even with ad personalization turned off on my iPad, my data export has click records going back to 2020 (when I created this Apple ID).
vorpalhex 4y ago
"cancer survivors app" "pregnancy tracker" "miscarriage therapy app"
- relaxing 4y ago
  So Apple knows I have a health condition, and then...
  - vorpalhex 4y ago
    They can be subpeonad for every woman who has downloaded an abortion app? They have a list of people who are gay/Democrat/Republican/whatever and that list can be stolen? You are trusting your medical info to an analytics team? One that probably doesn't have the best controls? That probably bulk shares their data across departments like marketing? I mean, if you don't care, send me your medical records, I'm sure I can make some money off of them.
  - KingOfCoders 4y ago
    All data that is stored can and will be used against you.
    - relaxing 4y ago
      Yes, but how? OP came back with some good answers, I appreciate that.

_23sd 4y ago

For one, because as another comment mentioned Apple's app store is the only option on iOS, so you can't opt out of it even if you really wanted to. I also find what Apple is doing particularly bad because the click data is associated with your account for a period of time decided by Apple (Edit: I said "permanently" before but that was wrong, it does expire but the privacy policy doesn't specify the exact retention period) and can't be deleted short of terminating the account. Compare how Google lets you disable or delete that kind of granular data from your account with the "Web and App Activity" switch.

askafriend 4y ago
1. "App Store browsing activity includes information like the content and apps you tap and view while browsing the App Store. This information is aggregated across users so that it does not identify you. We may also use local, on-device processing to select which ad to display, using information stored on your device, such as the apps you frequently open." 2. "To protect your privacy, targeted ads are delivered only if more than 5,000 people meet the targeting criteria. The information used to determine which ads are relevant to you is tied to random identifiers and not tied to your Apple ID." 3. "Apple’s advertising platform receives information about the ads you tap and view against a random identifier not tied to your Apple ID." 4. It's also possible to reset this random, unique identifier or turn off personalization entirely. Source: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/app-store/ https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/app-store/
- _23sd 4y ago
  I think that section is about how the advertising system uses browsing activity, not how it's collected and stored. Even with ad personalization turned off on my iPad, my data export has click records going back to 2020 (when I created this Apple ID).

vorpalhex 4y ago

"cancer survivors app" "pregnancy tracker" "miscarriage therapy app"

relaxing 4y ago
So Apple knows I have a health condition, and then...
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  They can be subpeonad for every woman who has downloaded an abortion app? They have a list of people who are gay/Democrat/Republican/whatever and that list can be stolen? You are trusting your medical info to an analytics team? One that probably doesn't have the best controls? That probably bulk shares their data across departments like marketing? I mean, if you don't care, send me your medical records, I'm sure I can make some money off of them.
- KingOfCoders 4y ago
  All data that is stored can and will be used against you.
  - relaxing 4y ago
    Yes, but how? OP came back with some good answers, I appreciate that.