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I do agree that a Web standard is not the place for personal tributes. (Imagine how unusable the colour list would become if all the colours had random persona
by zestyping 4y ago
I do agree that a Web standard is not the place for personal tributes. (Imagine how unusable the colour list would become if all the colours had random personal names in them!) Am I a terrible person for being aligned with the folks who opposed the addition?
- coldpie 4y agoNo. But if you go on and on that you didn't get your way, you might be.
- zestyping 4y agoFair.
- tyleregeto 4y agoWhen I loaded up the link, before viewing the comments in here, the very first thing I did was look for "Rebecca purple", and I was happy to find it. Not really a comment on your remarks, but thought I would share it. I'm influenced by the having a daughter born around this time, and Rebecca's story sticks with me.
- cybrox 4y agoNo, I agree. Web standards are not a place for personal tributes and documentations are not a place for political statements. These days, we have both.
- parker_mountain 4y ago> documentations are not a place for political statements Our work is a reflection of ourselves. Some of us feel strongly about issues that affect us in a personal way. You are likely referring to social issues you do not agree with, and as a gay man I have this to say: I will not stop asserting my right to exist openly, and that includes in the work I do.
- cybrox 4y agoNo offense but thank you for demonstrating this issue perfectly. You instantly assume that I am talking about social issues that I do not agree with or that do not affect me and feel personally attacked. It's quite the opposite, though. I most often agree with the messages people put in their documentation. Some of them even have a very deep personal meaning for me. Yet, I stand by my point that a technical documentation or standard is no place for them. You, I or nobody has any right to force someone who is trying to build software to listen to your/my/their personal beliefs and political opinions.
- parker_mountain 4y ago>You, I or nobody has any right to force someone who is trying to build software to listen to your/my/their personal beliefs and political opinions. I'm going to continue to build, and to make, and to live, and to thrive. There is never "a place" for inconvenient speech. This is an extremely privileged position. Don't like it? Don't read my docs. Go consume elsewhere. Thanks!
- zestyping 4y agoIt sounds like the two of you are talking about different things (personal creations vs. international standards) — perhaps that's a root of the disagreement?
- parker_mountain 4y agoFrankly, I was focusing less on the standards and more on documentation, but I would absolutely include an advocation for my human rights into any standard I was responsible for. There are still many countries I am unable to safely visit, and if they are going to use my work, I want them to at least be cognizant of their cruelty.
- DiggyJohnson 4y agoThis genuinely sounds like satire to me. You don’t know the politics of the person you’re replying to, to say the least. Additionally, even if I agree on your assertion of “your right to existing openly”, it doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t exercise that right wherever you can get away with it and fuck the haters.
- DangitBobby 4y agoIs rebeccapurple really any worse than dodgerblue, cornflowerblue, greenyellow, or yellowgreen? At least it has "purple" in the name.