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Here are the ones I can count (off the top of my head): - "Try the new Safari!" advertisement spam - Settings menu advertises iCloud - Apple Music activates

Here are the ones I can count (off the top of my head): - "Try the new Safari!" advertisement spam - Settings menu advertises iCloud - Apple Music activates every time you put on your headphones, treating you to a pop-up ad - App Store searches always return promoted content before actual results There are supposedly others in the News/Stock apps but I avoid Apple's first-party clients wherever possible.

sbuk 4y ago
- smoldesu 4y ago
  The post is about paying for something and having it advertise to you anyways. Apple, Google and Microsoft are all guilty of this - citing external examples is how we empathize with the things we read. That's the root of metatextuality. If you're not personally offended by Apple's smaller advertisements, that's great! Much like the Windows users who don't care about being advertising stock, you're welcome to continue using MacOS to your heart's content. You're lying to yourself if you think that MacOS lets you escape 'being the product', though.
  - karmakaze 4y ago
    In Apple's ecosystem, Apple users aren't so much the product as they are the product demonstrators. Apple's target audience isn't Apple customers, it's future Apple customers to be.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      They should make more desirable software, then.
      - karmakaze 4y ago
        When selling it only needs to seem more desirable. The quality of the demo is most important. The actual quality only has to be good enough for demonstrators to keep using and demoing in an overall positive light. i.e. current users are 2nd class citizens to potential future users. An example of this is the System Preferences change in macOS Ventura. I used to be able to see all choices in a small window, but now it looks like iPhone settings long scroll.
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- nottorp 4y ago
  > Having an unused iCloud settings icon is hardly advertising But pushing icloud for example when you run out of space, turning on icloud services on updates and then sending threatening emails that you'll lose your photos - that are only in icloud because Apple turned that on without permission - is.
- zhfliz 4y ago
  > Having an unused iCloud settings icon is hardly advertising it's not just an unused iCloud settings icon. it's a persistent red (1) that is always showing up in the settings app or in your dock while settings are open, indicating that something needs your attention. there used to be no official way to disable this "reminder", though it seems that with Ventura it can finally be dismissed.

sbuk 4y ago

smoldesu 4y ago
The post is about paying for something and having it advertise to you anyways. Apple, Google and Microsoft are all guilty of this - citing external examples is how we empathize with the things we read. That's the root of metatextuality. If you're not personally offended by Apple's smaller advertisements, that's great! Much like the Windows users who don't care about being advertising stock, you're welcome to continue using MacOS to your heart's content. You're lying to yourself if you think that MacOS lets you escape 'being the product', though.
- karmakaze 4y ago
  In Apple's ecosystem, Apple users aren't so much the product as they are the product demonstrators. Apple's target audience isn't Apple customers, it's future Apple customers to be.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    They should make more desirable software, then.
    - karmakaze 4y ago
      When selling it only needs to seem more desirable. The quality of the demo is most important. The actual quality only has to be good enough for demonstrators to keep using and demoing in an overall positive light. i.e. current users are 2nd class citizens to potential future users. An example of this is the System Preferences change in macOS Ventura. I used to be able to see all choices in a small window, but now it looks like iPhone settings long scroll.
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nottorp 4y ago
> Having an unused iCloud settings icon is hardly advertising But pushing icloud for example when you run out of space, turning on icloud services on updates and then sending threatening emails that you'll lose your photos - that are only in icloud because Apple turned that on without permission - is.
zhfliz 4y ago
> Having an unused iCloud settings icon is hardly advertising it's not just an unused iCloud settings icon. it's a persistent red (1) that is always showing up in the settings app or in your dock while settings are open, indicating that something needs your attention. there used to be no official way to disable this "reminder", though it seems that with Ventura it can finally be dismissed.