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I dont see any ads is MacOS

by last_responder 4y ago

vetinari 4y ago
So you didn't see any nag for iCloud in the System Preferences/System Settings app?
IceWreck 4y ago
iOS has been adding more and more ads slowly - app store, news, etc.
dralley 4y ago
You can't buy a copy of MacOS either - not anymore.
- INGSOCIALITE 4y ago
  I believe the original mindset was that the OS only runs on Apple hardware, the purchase of the hardware paid for the OS.
  - WeylandYutani 4y ago
    Nice idea but in order for that to work you need to cut people off at some point like Windows used to. Otherwise you'll be giving out software updates gratis in perpetuity.
    - plorkyeran 4y ago
      They do cut people off. macOS 13 doesn't run on any hardware from before 2017.
  - hexagonwin 4y ago
    Back in OS X Mountain Lion (2012) OSX was a separate product. I had a Macbook but bought the installation disk (OS) from a online store, because it wasn't bundled. Then suddenly they made it 'available to download from the App Store'..
wizee 4y ago
There are promoted apps in the app store, ads within news articles in the News and Stocks apps, and Apple also advertises their own services like Apple Music and Apple News and Apple Arcade etc. in some places, particularly on first use of some apps. Nowhere near as egregious as Windows, but still a bit disappointing.
- spamuel 4y ago
  - nottorp 4y ago
    You... open the app store... to look for applications? I only go there to search for an application that a trusted 3rd party source mentioned.
  - trs8080 4y ago
    Sounds like this space is ripe for disruption. You could do a whole white supremacist App Store with Klanstagram, Fourteen Little Words (a "pure" dating app), and Save Our Marriage (an anti-LGBT mobile game).
    - spamuel 4y ago
      Why not neither? Why not just keep appropriate ideas in appropriate contexts instead of feeling the need to colonize and proselytize, only to be shocked at the backlash?
  - boringg 4y ago
    Why would you ever open the AppStore? It's a wasteland.
smoldesu 4y ago
Here are the ones I can count (off the top of my head): - "Try the new Safari!" advertisement spam - Settings menu advertises iCloud - Apple Music activates every time you put on your headphones, treating you to a pop-up ad - App Store searches always return promoted content before actual results There are supposedly others in the News/Stock apps but I avoid Apple's first-party clients wherever possible.
- sbuk 4y ago
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    The post is about paying for something and having it advertise to you anyways. Apple, Google and Microsoft are all guilty of this - citing external examples is how we empathize with the things we read. That's the root of metatextuality. If you're not personally offended by Apple's smaller advertisements, that's great! Much like the Windows users who don't care about being advertising stock, you're welcome to continue using MacOS to your heart's content. You're lying to yourself if you think that MacOS lets you escape 'being the product', though.
    - karmakaze 4y ago
      In Apple's ecosystem, Apple users aren't so much the product as they are the product demonstrators. Apple's target audience isn't Apple customers, it's future Apple customers to be.
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        They should make more desirable software, then.
        karmakaze 4y ago
        When selling it only needs to seem more desirable. The quality of the demo is most important. The actual quality only has to be good enough for demonstrators to keep using and demoing in an overall positive light. i.e. current users are 2nd class citizens to potential future users. An example of this is the System Preferences change in macOS Ventura. I used to be able to see all choices in a small window, but now it looks like iPhone settings long scroll.
spamuel 4y ago
Yes you do. It's in the form of "nudges" toward more Apple products - mostly iCloud ecosystem products.
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
I also don't see any ads in my own Windows 11 installation start menu, just pinned apps and the latest files I have accessed [1]. Also, the start menu search functionality works flawlessly for me, always showing me the app or file I want. Hell, it even shows you power-user stuff really intuitively. Previously if you wanted to go into the windows registry editor, you had to know the right incantation, but now, all you have to do is hit the Windows/Meta key and type 'reg' and the registry editor already pups up as the first suggestion and hit enter. Lovely. A lot of these blog posts (like many comments in this thread sadly) are low effort hate/FUD for farming clickbait/karma rather than objective analysis. [1] https://imgur.com/a/VhkMeRr https://imgur.com/a/VhkMeRr
- p1peridine 4y ago
  > Also, the start menu search functionality works flawlessly for me, always showing me the app or file I want. It took the interns at Microsoft, what, nearly 10 years to fix the whole search function fiasco? Not impressive, and a working search function can not be considered a feature. > Previously if you wanted to go into the windows registry editor, you had to know the right incantation, but now, all you have to do is hit the Windows/Meta key and type 'reg' The same search, but on Windows 10 with Open Shell [0]: https://i.imgur.com/YyxIzcO.png https://i.imgur.com/YyxIzcO.png And in my opinion, the start menu is much better looking: https://i.imgur.com/NeXwFlM.png https://i.imgur.com/NeXwFlM.png > it even shows you power-user stuff really intuitively. Examples? In my circles I can't think of a single developer and/or power-user that use, or plan on using Windows 11 (except in a virtual machine for quick compatibility-testing). We're all on micropatched W7's or Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC - otherwise Linux. W11 has sort of become one of the topics we joke about during lunch. Power-users do not care about a cool and stylish UI, new icons or a simple working search function. > A lot of these blog posts (like many comments in this thread sadly) are low effort hate/FUD for farming clickbait/karma rather than objective analysis. ghacks has been covering Windows for many years. It's also not clickbait and MS are turning the operating system into an ad platform, unfortunately. [0] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
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ok123456 4y ago
What is 'iCloud'?
- mrkeen 4y ago
  It's where you put your files (nudes) to keep them safe (stolen). See 'the fappening'.
cm2187 4y ago
Every time I update iOS I have to go through a dozen modals to turn down apple's services: icloud, apple music, apple wallet, etc. To the point that I defer updates as long as I can. Apple introduced those things years ago, Microsoft is only following their footsteps.
toyg 4y ago
MacOS is a delivery channel for iCloud services.

I dont see any ads is MacOS

vetinari 4y ago

So you didn't see any nag for iCloud in the System Preferences/System Settings app?

IceWreck 4y ago

iOS has been adding more and more ads slowly - app store, news, etc.

dralley 4y ago

You can't buy a copy of MacOS either - not anymore.

INGSOCIALITE 4y ago
I believe the original mindset was that the OS only runs on Apple hardware, the purchase of the hardware paid for the OS.
- WeylandYutani 4y ago
  Nice idea but in order for that to work you need to cut people off at some point like Windows used to. Otherwise you'll be giving out software updates gratis in perpetuity.
  - plorkyeran 4y ago
    They do cut people off. macOS 13 doesn't run on any hardware from before 2017.
- hexagonwin 4y ago
  Back in OS X Mountain Lion (2012) OSX was a separate product. I had a Macbook but bought the installation disk (OS) from a online store, because it wasn't bundled. Then suddenly they made it 'available to download from the App Store'..

wizee 4y ago

There are promoted apps in the app store, ads within news articles in the News and Stocks apps, and Apple also advertises their own services like Apple Music and Apple News and Apple Arcade etc. in some places, particularly on first use of some apps. Nowhere near as egregious as Windows, but still a bit disappointing.

spamuel 4y ago
- nottorp 4y ago
  You... open the app store... to look for applications? I only go there to search for an application that a trusted 3rd party source mentioned.
- trs8080 4y ago
  Sounds like this space is ripe for disruption. You could do a whole white supremacist App Store with Klanstagram, Fourteen Little Words (a "pure" dating app), and Save Our Marriage (an anti-LGBT mobile game).
  - spamuel 4y ago
    Why not neither? Why not just keep appropriate ideas in appropriate contexts instead of feeling the need to colonize and proselytize, only to be shocked at the backlash?
- boringg 4y ago
  Why would you ever open the AppStore? It's a wasteland.

smoldesu 4y ago

Here are the ones I can count (off the top of my head): - "Try the new Safari!" advertisement spam - Settings menu advertises iCloud - Apple Music activates every time you put on your headphones, treating you to a pop-up ad - App Store searches always return promoted content before actual results There are supposedly others in the News/Stock apps but I avoid Apple's first-party clients wherever possible.

sbuk 4y ago
- smoldesu 4y ago
  The post is about paying for something and having it advertise to you anyways. Apple, Google and Microsoft are all guilty of this - citing external examples is how we empathize with the things we read. That's the root of metatextuality. If you're not personally offended by Apple's smaller advertisements, that's great! Much like the Windows users who don't care about being advertising stock, you're welcome to continue using MacOS to your heart's content. You're lying to yourself if you think that MacOS lets you escape 'being the product', though.
  - karmakaze 4y ago
    In Apple's ecosystem, Apple users aren't so much the product as they are the product demonstrators. Apple's target audience isn't Apple customers, it's future Apple customers to be.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      They should make more desirable software, then.
      - karmakaze 4y ago
        When selling it only needs to seem more desirable. The quality of the demo is most important. The actual quality only has to be good enough for demonstrators to keep using and demoing in an overall positive light. i.e. current users are 2nd class citizens to potential future users. An example of this is the System Preferences change in macOS Ventura. I used to be able to see all choices in a small window, but now it looks like iPhone settings long scroll.

spamuel 4y ago

Yes you do. It's in the form of "nudges" toward more Apple products - mostly iCloud ecosystem products.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

I also don't see any ads in my own Windows 11 installation start menu, just pinned apps and the latest files I have accessed [1]. Also, the start menu search functionality works flawlessly for me, always showing me the app or file I want. Hell, it even shows you power-user stuff really intuitively. Previously if you wanted to go into the windows registry editor, you had to know the right incantation, but now, all you have to do is hit the Windows/Meta key and type 'reg' and the registry editor already pups up as the first suggestion and hit enter. Lovely. A lot of these blog posts (like many comments in this thread sadly) are low effort hate/FUD for farming clickbait/karma rather than objective analysis. [1] https://imgur.com/a/VhkMeRr https://imgur.com/a/VhkMeRr

p1peridine 4y ago
> Also, the start menu search functionality works flawlessly for me, always showing me the app or file I want. It took the interns at Microsoft, what, nearly 10 years to fix the whole search function fiasco? Not impressive, and a working search function can not be considered a feature. > Previously if you wanted to go into the windows registry editor, you had to know the right incantation, but now, all you have to do is hit the Windows/Meta key and type 'reg' The same search, but on Windows 10 with Open Shell [0]: https://i.imgur.com/YyxIzcO.png https://i.imgur.com/YyxIzcO.png And in my opinion, the start menu is much better looking: https://i.imgur.com/NeXwFlM.png https://i.imgur.com/NeXwFlM.png > it even shows you power-user stuff really intuitively. Examples? In my circles I can't think of a single developer and/or power-user that use, or plan on using Windows 11 (except in a virtual machine for quick compatibility-testing). We're all on micropatched W7's or Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC - otherwise Linux. W11 has sort of become one of the topics we joke about during lunch. Power-users do not care about a cool and stylish UI, new icons or a simple working search function. > A lot of these blog posts (like many comments in this thread sadly) are low effort hate/FUD for farming clickbait/karma rather than objective analysis. ghacks has been covering Windows for many years. It's also not clickbait and MS are turning the operating system into an ad platform, unfortunately. [0] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago

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ok123456 4y ago

What is 'iCloud'?

mrkeen 4y ago
It's where you put your files (nudes) to keep them safe (stolen). See 'the fappening'.

cm2187 4y ago

Every time I update iOS I have to go through a dozen modals to turn down apple's services: icloud, apple music, apple wallet, etc. To the point that I defer updates as long as I can. Apple introduced those things years ago, Microsoft is only following their footsteps.

toyg 4y ago

MacOS is a delivery channel for iCloud services.