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Here in the US, we have freedom of expression. Unfortunately, most countries (including European countries) don't.
by csdvrx 4y ago
Here in the US, we have freedom of expression.
Unfortunately, most countries (including European countries) don't.
- benj111 4y agoWhat European countries count as most?
- djbebs 4y agoPretty much all of them.
- acallaghan 4y agoLike Qatar?
- benj111 4y agoI like how you make sweeping generalisations, with out getting specific enough to actually be required to defend yourself. Does the UK have freedom of expression? if not why not, if so what about Germany, or France, or Belgium, or Luxembourg, or the Netherlands, or Sweden, or finland, or Norway, or Denmark? I'll be nice and give you belarus, Hungary, I'll even give you transnistria.
- nautilius 4y agoI’m sure you mean freedom of expression unless the authorities disapprove? https://www.npr.org/2022/09/06/1121322520/a-black-protester-voiced-anger-at-police-in-south-carolina-she-got-4-years-in-pr https://www.npr.org/2022/09/06/1121322520/a-black-protester-...
- BizyDev 4y agoColin Kaepernick's NFL career has been destroyed just because he kneeled during an anthem. More recently, Kyrie Irving had a lot of problems "just" because he shared a controversial documentary available on Amazon. That's not what I would call "freedom of expression".
- psychphysic 4y ago100% even when BLM took off as mainstream he was persona non grata
- barbazoo 4y agoThe difference being that in the US you don't have to fear prosecution for most things you'd get prosecuted for in, say, Quatar. You might get cancelled on Twitter but you don't end up in jail or get killed at least.
- nells 4y agoExactly. In countries of Europe denying the Holocaust occurred can get you fined or even land you in jail. Americans should appreciate what they have.
- nautilius 4y agoYou do get jailed, though, for talking to the authorities in a way they don't like. https://www.npr.org/2022/09/06/1121322520/a-black-protester-voiced-anger-at-police-in-south-carolina-she-got-4-years-in-pr https://www.npr.org/2022/09/06/1121322520/a-black-protester-...
- barbazoo 4y agoTotally there are cases like that but let's not pretend it's as bad as in many other countries. Cases like this also consistently make the news in NA and Europe.
- nautilius 4y agoHow fast we went from "Best and unique in the world" to "let's not pretend it's as bad as in many other countries" ...
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- float4 4y agoYour own country disagrees with you. Freedom House researches this exact topic and they're funded by the US Government. Their current chair is a republican but they're non-partisan. Looking at their most recent data[0], we can see the US scored 14/16 in 2022 on "Freedom of Expression and Belief", meaning that 53 countries were better by scoring 15/16 or 16/16. Of the 27 countries that scored 16/16, 11 were European. Qatar scored 6/16 by the way. When you look at the total Freedom Index, the US scores 83/100 which is good for place 62 and lower than most of Europe. Qatar scored 25/100. Here is a world map[1]. [0] https://freedomhouse.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Aggregate_Category_and_Subcategory_Scores_FIW_2003-2022.xlsx https://freedomhouse.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Aggrega... [1] https://freedomhouse.org/explore-the-map?type=fiw&year=2022 https://freedomhouse.org/explore-the-map?type=fiw&year=2022
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