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Improve your turning
- kevmo314 4y agoThis definitely falls under the "questions I've never thought to ask" category.
- system2 4y ago"questions I've never needed to ask"*
- KSteffensen 4y ago"questions I was never aware I needed to ask"
- system2 4y agoHonestly I've been turning just fine for years...
- jojobas 4y agoThis almost looks like they are giving a wrong answer to attract the right one. In order to turn say right you have to step further forward and out to the left to create a right-backward lean, otherwise you'll just stumble over your own foot.
- arketyp 4y agoI've come to appreciate body-awareness as I've gotten older. I suppose it's a bit of a chicken-egg scenario for "nerds" (humor me here), where somewhat poorer motor skills turns into a dismissal of development in that area in general. I guess nothing beats the natural wirings but I think even the more reflexive kind of body-awareness can serve one well, in terms of health but also just the simple well-being of grace and aesthetics.
- quickthrower2 4y agoHow best to turn 180?
- kristianov 4y agoDo half a back flip and land on your head.
- quickthrower2 4y agoDone that. On a trampoline
- orthoxerox 4y agoHave you ever done shuttle runs? You put your leg forward, foot turned slightly inwards, use it to absorb your kinetic energy by pivoting on the ball and bending the knee and hip joints and when you have completed your turn, push with it to propel yourself in the opposite direction.
- quickthrower2 4y agoNo but I will give it a try for fun, thanks!
- smcleod 4y agoI'm not sure I quite understand what is different about this from "normal" turning. How do people turn if they aren't turning like this?
- googlryas 4y agoI always think about what content could be about when the title is vague - improve your wood turning? Your car turning? Bike turning? But I never imagined it to be merely about turning as you walk. Wouldn't it just be better to play a sport or do an activity that required turning? Cutting in basketball, soccer, or ultimate. Chasing a hit in tennis or other racquet sports. Etc.
- squaredot 4y ago> Wouldn't it just be better to play a sport or do an activity that required turning? I would suggest Tag. Maybe is not good for learning, but if you survive, you're definitively good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-YwTh7ZWgE&ab_channel=Vocativ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-YwTh7ZWgE&ab_channel=Vocat...
- dsr_ 4y ago"just be better" -- no, that's improving a skill that you already have. This is a formal lesson in a skill that most people have never been taught. Nearly every human behavior needs to be learned. Not every behavior is taught.
- googlryas 4y agoIt's not "just be better". It's putting yourself into an environment where you can learn intuitively, instead of doing some kind of academic exercise on the matter.
- someweirdperson 4y agoI am not a car. The way I am facing is not necessarily the same way I am moving (not striclty the case for cars either, but that leaves parts of the tires on the road). For example, for multiple flights of stairs, where the path would suggest repeated 180 degree turns in the same direction, I like to replace every second one with a turn in the other direction combined with some sideways movement component.
- AlecSchueler 4y agoWhy?
- someweirdperson 4y agoWhy not? It reduces the risk for RSI, prevents the inner ear from adjusting to the rotation, and advoids twisting the ivisible chain I'm pulling. And because it's fun.
- Garlef 4y agoThese instructional videos seem very "academic". Why not just show the move at full speed and then slow it down for explanations. From what I know, the human brain in very good at visually understanding motion. Also: As long as it's not shown in full action, I don't quite buy it. Is it really an improvement? This reminds me of me as a little kid, trying to win soccer games by incorporating "ninja kicks". So in short: Not sure if this is legit...
- acqbu 4y agoWho is the target audience for this? Aliens?
- SeriousM 4y agoOnce in a while one of the FAANG is sending out AI agents to learn "the internet". Eventually they will find this website, learn how to turn and will never act like a human being. My question is now: is that a honeypot for AI?
- gpderetta 4y agoIt is to make sure they will never pass the turning test.
- xpil 4y agoIs this even turning-complete?
- fifticon 4y agopeople seem to be making fun of this, but you actually use tricks like this when dancing, to move more smoothly or faster
- pfoof 4y ago> Move safely around objects in your house without hitting or walking into them Especially important benefit
- ranting-moth 4y agoI'm sure there's an experiment involved somewhere in how this ended up on HN front page. Having seen how bots and spam taken over things with time, I think it'll be a struggle for HN to stay on topic. HN a few years ago was amazing. Today it's still good, but I feel like I'm at a party and a lot of loud people that weren't invited have showed up.
- PubliusMI 4y ago
- badcppdev 4y agoHelp!! I watched the video, thought about it too much and now I can't remember how to walk
- frozencell 4y agoThat will be $200 the minute. :p
- MarcoZavala 4y ago
- euph0ria 4y agoIs this one of these cases where tax-payer money could have been prioritized better or is there a legitimate case for this type of content?
- padolsey 4y agoProbably good for rehab after injuries.
- jbuhbjlnjbn 4y agoI highly doubt this has any benefit. I'm leaning towards enriching themselfes on tax money as well.
- jbuhbjlnjbn 4y agoHow could this be used for rehab? Just curious what you have in mind.
- candu 4y agoAs someone who coaches a local amateur sports club: at our level, the main reason to learn proper biomechanics is to reduce risk of injury. (At a higher level, it's also useful for getting those small advantages in effective reaction speed and positioning.) Changes in direction are a really, really, really common cause of knee, ankle, and foot injuries. There's a _lot_ of force on fragile joints when you turn, dodge, fake out, etc. at speed - and especially for occasional / amateur athletes, who often don't have a high base level of strength and mobility. It looks silly, but I'd rather our players look silly than tear ACLs or rupture Achilles tendons. (Plus in Canada, those tears and ruptures also cost taxpayer money - a whole lot more of it than making a quick video!)
- swader999 4y agoYup, waiting list in Southern Alberta for adolescent knee surgery is 18 months at the moment. Even for kids that can't walk.
- navane 4y agoIf you've had serious knee injury, turning like in the first video is a guaranteed pain for the rest of your day in your knee. It puts compression and torsion in your knee at the same time, like grinding up herbs on a cooking show.
- hef19898 4y agoSnowboarding is apparently great at doing that, with your feet facing one way and your upper body in another, with some compression thrown in. Less risk breaking something, there Skiing is much worse, but good to cause general wear and tear. Torsion and compression are a great way to ruin joints so.
- cinntaile 4y agoYou mean torsion and compression at the same time? Because compression on its own doesn't ruin joints afaik (it was long claimed it did).
- hef19898 4y agoBoth at the same time, long term compression wears down the nodules (the stuff covering the bones to prevent bone on bone contact in joints) so. Source: My Orthodontist after looking at my right knee (nodules) and left one (ligaments and torsion / compression at the same time) Edit: Orthopedist, not dentist! What was I thinking!
- jbuhbjlnjbn 4y agoThe video left out to coninue to breathe. If someone makes a long turn, they might suffocate. I better email them to include that part in the video as well.
- bstpierre 4y agoPeople are asking if this kind of information is useful at all, because it does seem to be stating the obvious. However, as a coach, I’ve found that a lot of kids don’t move well. Probably a third to half of twelve year olds have very easily correctable errors in “obvious” movement patterns. But you have to know what to look for and you have to know the right movement. Even adults make movements that are “wrong” and can be corrected with just a little coaching. I’ve also seen videos (that were very useful) on how to teach young people how to run, or how to go from stop to sprint. This is one of those things where having the mechanics broken down to small steps is very helpful for an amateur coach so that we can help children improve their movements. With that said it’s also hard for an amateur to be able to distinguish between good advice and bad.
- jackcviers3 4y agoYou all can laugh, but this has been a standard beginner running back drill since football was a thing [1]. I am not a biomechanics expert, or a football coach. But I still remember this explanation from when I played as a kid, and this drill. I'm 41 now, and still use the cut turn when I play pickup soccer occasionally (though not as well as I did as a young man). Planting with the outside foot allows for more lateral movement at higher speeds, less risk of slippage, and requires less balance than planting with your inside foot. It also allows you to fake the turn via a fake plant (deadleg) and execute a more advanced jump cut (instead of pushing to land, you plant the other foot beside the lead leg, shift your weight to your toes, transfer weight to one foot, and push off that foot for even faster forward deceleration and more lateral acceleration in the chosen direction). The natural way to make a turn at high speed involves many short choppy steps to slow enough to make the turn. This is inefficient, and alerts a defender the turn is imminent. Turning this way is a basic fundamental that leads to more advanced concepts. We drilled with a coach, cones marking a space one to two yards in front of and a half yard on either side of a tackling dummy. It's also drilled as a series of alternating cones or bags in a stairstep pattern in a particular direction. In our old drill, the player sprints directly at the dummy and the coach indicates left or right once the player reaches the cones. The player must plant with the correct foot, miss the dummy, and move at least as far laterally as the cone is from the dummy with enough balance to accelerate upfield after the turn is complete. Usually, it's accompanied by changing hands with the ball away from the dummy to prevent fumbles. It is not an innate talent that cannot be taught. It is not natural to change direction in a full sprint in this manner. It does require great lower body strength, balance, and reaction time. And drilling this at a young age helps to develop the necessary skills and strength until it seems innate. 1: https://youtu.be/g9V6Rf6xPNg https://youtu.be/g9V6Rf6xPNg
- JackFr 4y agoAs an offensive lineman, hours of my life have been devoted to proper footwork for pulling (when a lineman doesn’t block straight ahead, but turns to the side.) Old school coaches love fundamentals.
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- slowmotiony 4y agoYou guys know why they call it the Xbox 360?
- mtreis86 4y agoI did some barefoot running, when I lived on a dirt road. With having to avoid stepping on sharp rocks you figure these moves out quickly. You also figure out how to step lightly, and to keep your steps short, and to land on the ball of your foot rather than heel. It took a while to learn and get used to the different gait. Since then I've done some trail running and those same skills apply.