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Just off the top of my head, depending on accent or dialect: "spritzer", "waltzer", "Mitsubishi", "matzos", "mitzvah".

eesmith 4y ago
A fun code challenge! I started with https://github.com/Alexir/CMUdict/blob/master/cmudict-0.7b https://github.com/Alexir/CMUdict/blob/master/cmudict-0.7b as a list of words with pronunciation. It has: PIZZA P IY1 T S AH0 Looks like I can search for " T S " to find the "ts sound that's not at the end" % grep " T S " cmudict-0.7b | wc -l 991 Some of the non-proper nouns include ACCOUNTANCY, ANTSY, and ARTSY. I'll assume this is too close to the end to count, so require two sounds after the " T S ": % grep -E " T S [A-Z0-9]+ [A-Z0-9]+" cmudict-0.7b | wc -l 853 These include: bestseller, blitzkrieg, boatswain, bootstrap, chutzpah, craftsman, draftsmanship, footstep, hotspot, itself, jetstream, outscore, outsell, outside, postscript, shirtsleeve, shortstop, sportsmanship, statesmen, tsar, tsunami, whatsoever, yachtsman, and zeitgeist. (It doesn't have "spritzer" in the list, and uses the spelling "matzoh" instead of "matzo". I didn't look for a more complete list of word pronunciations.) Finally, two words with two occurrences of the "ts" sound, neither at the end: % grep -E " T S .*T S " cmudict-0.7b ITSY-BITSY IH2 T S IY0 B IH1 T S IY0 TSETSE T S IY1 T S IY0
- YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
  "Zeitgeist" seems like a bug, I've never heard anyone pronounce the leading 'z' as 'ˈts' in English, and doing so as a non-German might even be seen as 'over-pronuciation'.
  - eesmith 4y ago
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zeitgeist#Pronunciation https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zeitgeist#Pronunciation gives two pronunciations: Pronunciation (Received Pronunciation, General American) IPA(key): /ˈtsaɪtˌɡaɪst/, /ˈzaɪtˌɡaɪst/ https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zeitgeist https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zeitgeist also gives two: ˈtsīt-ˌgīst ˈzīt- I tried to get statistics from listening to https://youglish.com/pronounce/zeitgeist/english https://youglish.com/pronounce/zeitgeist/english? but found I have a hard time distinguishing the two forms.
- sph 4y ago
  "boatswain" should be pronounced "bosun".
  - eesmith 4y ago
    You're right. Though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain says "formerly and dialectally also /ˈboʊtsweɪn/ BOHT-swayn", the dictionaries I checked do not list that alternative. https://www.etymonline.com/word/boatswain https://www.etymonline.com/word/boatswain even comments: > Phonetic spelling bo'sun/bosun is attested from 1840. Fowler [1926] writes, "The nautical pronunciation (bō'sn) has become so general that to avoid it is more affected than to use it."
- withinboredom 4y ago
  Most of the examples you gave are compound words, or made through suffixes and who knows, maybe my Russian teacher told a lie!
  - eesmith 4y ago
    It certainly seems your Russian teacher wasn't fond of schnitzel nor seltzer.
    - withinboredom 4y ago
      I was literally laughing so hard from this comment. Thanks for brightening my day.

A fun code challenge! I started with https://github.com/Alexir/CMUdict/blob/master/cmudict-0.7b https://github.com/Alexir/CMUdict/blob/master/cmudict-0.7b as a list of words with pronunciation. It has: PIZZA P IY1 T S AH0 Looks like I can search for " T S " to find the "ts sound that's not at the end" % grep " T S " cmudict-0.7b | wc -l 991 Some of the non-proper nouns include ACCOUNTANCY, ANTSY, and ARTSY. I'll assume this is too close to the end to count, so require two sounds after the " T S ": % grep -E " T S [A-Z0-9]+ [A-Z0-9]+" cmudict-0.7b | wc -l 853 These include: bestseller, blitzkrieg, boatswain, bootstrap, chutzpah, craftsman, draftsmanship, footstep, hotspot, itself, jetstream, outscore, outsell, outside, postscript, shirtsleeve, shortstop, sportsmanship, statesmen, tsar, tsunami, whatsoever, yachtsman, and zeitgeist. (It doesn't have "spritzer" in the list, and uses the spelling "matzoh" instead of "matzo". I didn't look for a more complete list of word pronunciations.) Finally, two words with two occurrences of the "ts" sound, neither at the end: % grep -E " T S .*T S " cmudict-0.7b ITSY-BITSY IH2 T S IY0 B IH1 T S IY0 TSETSE T S IY1 T S IY0

YurgenJurgensen 4y ago
"Zeitgeist" seems like a bug, I've never heard anyone pronounce the leading 'z' as 'ˈts' in English, and doing so as a non-German might even be seen as 'over-pronuciation'.
- eesmith 4y ago
  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zeitgeist#Pronunciation https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zeitgeist#Pronunciation gives two pronunciations: Pronunciation (Received Pronunciation, General American) IPA(key): /ˈtsaɪtˌɡaɪst/, /ˈzaɪtˌɡaɪst/ https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zeitgeist https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zeitgeist also gives two: ˈtsīt-ˌgīst ˈzīt- I tried to get statistics from listening to https://youglish.com/pronounce/zeitgeist/english https://youglish.com/pronounce/zeitgeist/english? but found I have a hard time distinguishing the two forms.
sph 4y ago
"boatswain" should be pronounced "bosun".
- eesmith 4y ago
  You're right. Though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain says "formerly and dialectally also /ˈboʊtsweɪn/ BOHT-swayn", the dictionaries I checked do not list that alternative. https://www.etymonline.com/word/boatswain https://www.etymonline.com/word/boatswain even comments: > Phonetic spelling bo'sun/bosun is attested from 1840. Fowler [1926] writes, "The nautical pronunciation (bō'sn) has become so general that to avoid it is more affected than to use it."
withinboredom 4y ago
Most of the examples you gave are compound words, or made through suffixes and who knows, maybe my Russian teacher told a lie!
- eesmith 4y ago
  It certainly seems your Russian teacher wasn't fond of schnitzel nor seltzer.
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    I was literally laughing so hard from this comment. Thanks for brightening my day.