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On the other hand, it would be confusing to have two top level domains for one country.

RobotToaster 4y ago
There's a few that already have that, China has .cn and .中国 for instance.
robin_reala 4y ago
UK’s not one country though. E.g. there’s https://www.gov.uk/ https://www.gov.uk/, but also https://www.gov.scot/ https://www.gov.scot/ and https://gov.wales/ https://gov.wales/.
- blibble 4y ago
  those aren't classed by icann as cctlds (in the same way .vegas and .miami aren't)
- RobotToaster 4y ago
  The UK is one country, it just happens to be made up of multiple countries. Just as the United States is a (sovereign) state, that is made up of multiple states.
  - soneil 4y ago
    The way I prefer to think of it, is the UK is a state comprising of several countries, and the US is a country comprising of several states. I can't promise it's any more accurate, but it amuses me.
    - School-Cotton 4y ago
      What does that mean?
      - soneil 4y ago
        Honestly, nothing. I just enjoy the symmetry. But really - we like to think there's a sensible definition of what a country is. There isn't. What makes Scotland a country and not Montana? I'm in Ireland, the examples get even more convoluted. For some sports we field a team as a UN-recognised nation-state. For some sports we field a team as an island. If you're born on the island to parents who are citizens of the island, you can claim an Irish passport - whether or not you were born in the country of Ireland. Sometimes it's a geopolitical entity, sometimes it's a geographical entity, sometimes it's a political entity. Sometimes it's not even green. Is the UK a nation? Is the US a nation? Is the Navajo Nation a nation? Is the UK a country? Is England a country? Is Malboro Country a country? My passport says "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". But I'm not convinced Great Britain is a United Kingdom (England and Scotland legally are, Wales may be a principality depending on who and when you ask), and I'm not sure if Northern Ireland was ever a Kingdom (Ulster perhaps, otherwise it's not a kingdom, but the remains of a king's claims). Nationhood is almost as convoluted as the modern take on gender. You can self-identify as anything you like if you have an army to back you up.
- zeristor 4y ago
  It is always a hot topic, but England’s dominance can be noted in its absence. Wouldn’t it be fair to say that the UK is synonymous with England in this case? Exhibit A, that I have at hand. Rainfall gauges for only England using the UK domain: https://check-for-flooding.service.gov.uk/rainfall-station/238605TP?v=map&lyr=mv,rf&ext=-6.180326,47.512308,3.355807,57.405559 https://check-for-flooding.service.gov.uk/rainfall-station/2...
  - actionfromafar 4y ago
    If you want to get really weird, look into City of London and some of the Channel Islands. UK very much retains living heritage of the medieval.
    - jinder 4y ago
      I think the independent status of the City of London is grossly exaggerated and not really comparable with the Channel Islands.
      - pmyteh 4y ago
        It's not particularly independent, but it is the last of the unreformed medieval municipal corporations. In earlier times every borough/city corporation was chartered ad hoc and often had completely undemocratic rules for membership (e.g. selection by the outgoing members, maintaining a self-selected oligarchy, or election by an extremely restricted franchise). There was a process from the Municipal Corporations Act 1835[0] onwards where the old order was reformed into a more modern (more uniform and more democratic) county/district/borough/city councils system. We eventually ended up with the local authorities we have today. Except for the City of London. Here, a combination of the Victorian power of the Corporation, coupled with the tiny resident population of the City (and a consequent desire by central governments to leave elections in the effective hands of the companies who employ people in the City rather than those who live there) have left a body allowed to take its own direction. Along with the Council of the Isles of Scilly (weird because Scilly is far too small to justify its own principal authority, but too far from Cornwall to be conveniently governed by it) it is one of only two really sui generis principal local authorities in England. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_Corporations_Act_1835 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_Corporations_Act_183...
- School-Cotton 4y ago
  > UK’s not one country though. England, Scotland, Wales, and NI are called “countries” for historical and traditional reasons. They are not “countries” by any internationally applicable definition (if they were, then the states of the US, the provinces of Canada, etc. would all count as “countries” too by any such definition I can imagine).
weberer 4y ago
Spain has .cat for Catalonia.
- smcl 4y ago
  I think the organization that administers .cat would take issue with the idea that it is owned by "Spain" :)
- JorgeGT 4y ago
  Note that .cat is for the Catalan language, which is spoken in other places besides Catalonia, inside and outside of Spain. There is also .gal and .eus for the Galician and Basque (Euskara) languages as well.
dukeofharen 4y ago
Fun fact, besides .ru (Russia), .su (Soviet Union) is also still active.
cesarb 4y ago
It's not the only country with that, for instance the USA has both .us and .gov for its government domains.
wmd_ 4y ago
Does this mean it is time to retire the .su TLD as well?

There's a few that already have that, China has .cn and .中国 for instance.

UK’s not one country though. E.g. there’s https://www.gov.uk/ https://www.gov.uk/, but also https://www.gov.scot/ https://www.gov.scot/ and https://gov.wales/ https://gov.wales/.

blibble 4y ago
those aren't classed by icann as cctlds (in the same way .vegas and .miami aren't)
RobotToaster 4y ago
The UK is one country, it just happens to be made up of multiple countries. Just as the United States is a (sovereign) state, that is made up of multiple states.
- soneil 4y ago
  The way I prefer to think of it, is the UK is a state comprising of several countries, and the US is a country comprising of several states. I can't promise it's any more accurate, but it amuses me.
  - School-Cotton 4y ago
    What does that mean?
    - soneil 4y ago
      Honestly, nothing. I just enjoy the symmetry. But really - we like to think there's a sensible definition of what a country is. There isn't. What makes Scotland a country and not Montana? I'm in Ireland, the examples get even more convoluted. For some sports we field a team as a UN-recognised nation-state. For some sports we field a team as an island. If you're born on the island to parents who are citizens of the island, you can claim an Irish passport - whether or not you were born in the country of Ireland. Sometimes it's a geopolitical entity, sometimes it's a geographical entity, sometimes it's a political entity. Sometimes it's not even green. Is the UK a nation? Is the US a nation? Is the Navajo Nation a nation? Is the UK a country? Is England a country? Is Malboro Country a country? My passport says "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". But I'm not convinced Great Britain is a United Kingdom (England and Scotland legally are, Wales may be a principality depending on who and when you ask), and I'm not sure if Northern Ireland was ever a Kingdom (Ulster perhaps, otherwise it's not a kingdom, but the remains of a king's claims). Nationhood is almost as convoluted as the modern take on gender. You can self-identify as anything you like if you have an army to back you up.
zeristor 4y ago
It is always a hot topic, but England’s dominance can be noted in its absence. Wouldn’t it be fair to say that the UK is synonymous with England in this case? Exhibit A, that I have at hand. Rainfall gauges for only England using the UK domain: https://check-for-flooding.service.gov.uk/rainfall-station/238605TP?v=map&lyr=mv,rf&ext=-6.180326,47.512308,3.355807,57.405559 https://check-for-flooding.service.gov.uk/rainfall-station/2...
- actionfromafar 4y ago
  If you want to get really weird, look into City of London and some of the Channel Islands. UK very much retains living heritage of the medieval.
  - jinder 4y ago
    I think the independent status of the City of London is grossly exaggerated and not really comparable with the Channel Islands.
    - pmyteh 4y ago
      It's not particularly independent, but it is the last of the unreformed medieval municipal corporations. In earlier times every borough/city corporation was chartered ad hoc and often had completely undemocratic rules for membership (e.g. selection by the outgoing members, maintaining a self-selected oligarchy, or election by an extremely restricted franchise). There was a process from the Municipal Corporations Act 1835[0] onwards where the old order was reformed into a more modern (more uniform and more democratic) county/district/borough/city councils system. We eventually ended up with the local authorities we have today. Except for the City of London. Here, a combination of the Victorian power of the Corporation, coupled with the tiny resident population of the City (and a consequent desire by central governments to leave elections in the effective hands of the companies who employ people in the City rather than those who live there) have left a body allowed to take its own direction. Along with the Council of the Isles of Scilly (weird because Scilly is far too small to justify its own principal authority, but too far from Cornwall to be conveniently governed by it) it is one of only two really sui generis principal local authorities in England. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_Corporations_Act_1835 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_Corporations_Act_183...
School-Cotton 4y ago
> UK’s not one country though. England, Scotland, Wales, and NI are called “countries” for historical and traditional reasons. They are not “countries” by any internationally applicable definition (if they were, then the states of the US, the provinces of Canada, etc. would all count as “countries” too by any such definition I can imagine).

weberer 4y ago

Spain has .cat for Catalonia.

smcl 4y ago
I think the organization that administers .cat would take issue with the idea that it is owned by "Spain" :)
JorgeGT 4y ago
Note that .cat is for the Catalan language, which is spoken in other places besides Catalonia, inside and outside of Spain. There is also .gal and .eus for the Galician and Basque (Euskara) languages as well.

dukeofharen 4y ago

Fun fact, besides .ru (Russia), .su (Soviet Union) is also still active.

cesarb 4y ago

It's not the only country with that, for instance the USA has both .us and .gov for its government domains.

wmd_ 4y ago

Does this mean it is time to retire the .su TLD as well?