He did have a counter argument - 'the market values the box' - pure capitalism. The scary thing is he understood that the box inherently is nothing of any valu

He did have a counter argument - 'the market values the box' - pure capitalism. The scary thing is he understood that the box inherently is nothing of any value, except that the market has placed a value on it - yet still bought into lots of boxes that the market said had value till they didnt have and value. The gambler once again.