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That's not how poker works. It's player vs player, not player vs house. The casino just takes a rake (a cut of each pot). There is no incentive for the casinos

That's not how poker works. It's player vs player, not player vs house. The casino just takes a rake (a cut of each pot). There is no incentive for the casinos to rig the outcome of the game. They make money regardless of the outcomes.

JamesianP 4y ago
They would make money by colluding with one of the players and taking a cut of their winnings. Or sometimes they just get hacked. It does make sense that in a lot of player-versus-player games, online makes it more risky.
somenameforme 4y ago
This is not quite an accurate picture, unfortunately. The casino/house earns money on each hand played. Their motivation is to maximize the number of hands played. Their ideal scenario would be where poker was a 0-skill game where a bunch of players would just endlessly play against each other with 0 edge until all the money in the ecosystem was taken up by the house. In practice losing/casual players tend to lose their money pretty quickly, and winning/skilled players then take that money that they've earned and withdraw it - while waiting for another casual player. The house has every motivation to increase the amount of time it takes for a skilled player to wipe out a casual player. They also benefit from casual players going on 'hot streaks' early on. The goal there is to convince the casual player that they are skilled, and their later losses are "bad luck." The point being to encourage them to deposit more after they lose their money.
- AtlasBarfed 4y ago
  Would you enter a four-way game where three of the players were tipping their hands to each other with hand signals and brigade betting against you? In an online game, how do you know other people at the table aren't side channel communicating? How do you know some of the hands aren't player bots that work for the site where whatever money you lose and they win goes to the casino site? How do you know they don't know the precise order of the "random deck"? Or that they don't know what your hand is? Now, consider the same for voting machines.
55555 4y ago
https://upswingpoker.com/ultimate-bet-absolute-poker-scandal/ https://upswingpoker.com/ultimate-bet-absolute-poker-scandal... You're right in theory but, in practice, it does happen.

JamesianP 4y ago

They would make money by colluding with one of the players and taking a cut of their winnings. Or sometimes they just get hacked. It does make sense that in a lot of player-versus-player games, online makes it more risky.

somenameforme 4y ago

This is not quite an accurate picture, unfortunately. The casino/house earns money on each hand played. Their motivation is to maximize the number of hands played. Their ideal scenario would be where poker was a 0-skill game where a bunch of players would just endlessly play against each other with 0 edge until all the money in the ecosystem was taken up by the house. In practice losing/casual players tend to lose their money pretty quickly, and winning/skilled players then take that money that they've earned and withdraw it - while waiting for another casual player. The house has every motivation to increase the amount of time it takes for a skilled player to wipe out a casual player. They also benefit from casual players going on 'hot streaks' early on. The goal there is to convince the casual player that they are skilled, and their later losses are "bad luck." The point being to encourage them to deposit more after they lose their money.

AtlasBarfed 4y ago
Would you enter a four-way game where three of the players were tipping their hands to each other with hand signals and brigade betting against you? In an online game, how do you know other people at the table aren't side channel communicating? How do you know some of the hands aren't player bots that work for the site where whatever money you lose and they win goes to the casino site? How do you know they don't know the precise order of the "random deck"? Or that they don't know what your hand is? Now, consider the same for voting machines.

55555 4y ago

https://upswingpoker.com/ultimate-bet-absolute-poker-scandal/ https://upswingpoker.com/ultimate-bet-absolute-poker-scandal... You're right in theory but, in practice, it does happen.