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I have a Model 3, previously had a Fiat 500e, VW GTI, and Saturn. I’ve driven other high end cars and their systems are way harder to use imo. It’s worth just t

I have a Model 3, previously had a Fiat 500e, VW GTI, and Saturn. I’ve driven other high end cars and their systems are way harder to use imo. It’s worth just trying yourself vs. listening to people on HN. Most people don’t bother with their in car nav and just use their phone. I’ve heard apple car play isn’t bad though. The Model 3 did have an update that made things worse for a bit, but they fixed it. Since I’ve owned it (2018) it’s much better than it was when I bought it because of updates.

bluGill 4y ago
I don't know why anyone bothers with in car nav. Who doesn't have a smart phone with up to the second maps on their person? (Hint the type of person who can't program the in car navigation). Sure I could get my car updated, but it isn't worth it, the maps are obsolete before the programming is done.
- gonehome 4y ago
  The Tesla one is better than using your phone - which is a high bar (and kind of the point I'm trying to make). The display is big, the maps are google maps, it has traffic routing, it can route you via super chargers, etc.
  - dagmx 4y ago
    However the Tesla one is not better than using your phone+CarPlay which is the real comparison point for many people. Both CarPlay and android auto are miles ahead of where Tesla is, but as a result the comparison becomes murky. Do you compare vanilla car to vanilla car? Or do you consider the actual use case or capability for most people? If you believe Apple’s own marketing, the existence of CarPlay is a massively considered factor for the purchase of new cars.
    - amluto 4y ago
      Indeed. Google and Apple are pretty good at giving directions that actually relate to the signs on freeway off-ramps. Tesla tends to give directions based on a naive reading of the map (exit descriptions don’t reliably match signs), and the freeway lane indicators, while helpful, often show up too late. To be clear, Tesla’s nav is pretty good, but I’d rather use CarPlay or Android Auto.

bluGill 4y ago

I don't know why anyone bothers with in car nav. Who doesn't have a smart phone with up to the second maps on their person? (Hint the type of person who can't program the in car navigation). Sure I could get my car updated, but it isn't worth it, the maps are obsolete before the programming is done.

gonehome 4y ago
The Tesla one is better than using your phone - which is a high bar (and kind of the point I'm trying to make). The display is big, the maps are google maps, it has traffic routing, it can route you via super chargers, etc.
- dagmx 4y ago
  However the Tesla one is not better than using your phone+CarPlay which is the real comparison point for many people. Both CarPlay and android auto are miles ahead of where Tesla is, but as a result the comparison becomes murky. Do you compare vanilla car to vanilla car? Or do you consider the actual use case or capability for most people? If you believe Apple’s own marketing, the existence of CarPlay is a massively considered factor for the purchase of new cars.
  - amluto 4y ago
    Indeed. Google and Apple are pretty good at giving directions that actually relate to the signs on freeway off-ramps. Tesla tends to give directions based on a naive reading of the map (exit descriptions don’t reliably match signs), and the freeway lane indicators, while helpful, often show up too late. To be clear, Tesla’s nav is pretty good, but I’d rather use CarPlay or Android Auto.