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Honestly, the biggest thing going for Tesla’s right now is their charging network. The ratio of supercharger to CCS chargers in most of North America is still u
by dagmx 4y ago
Honestly, the biggest thing going for Tesla’s right now is their charging network. The ratio of supercharger to CCS chargers in most of North America is still unfortunately biased towards Tesla.
When we drove up the West Coast, it was a 5:1 ratio in many places.
This will likely change soon as CCS cars overtake Tesla and I’d be curious how things would fare then.
FSD is potentially another differentiator, but in my experience with our own MY, Tesla is way worse at the basics of autonomous driving than other brands but better at the advanced stuff that nobody else is rolling out likely due to liability. I expect many of those other brands could have similar autonomous capabilities licensed from vendors like NVIDIA.
The new Volvo EX90 is a really interesting vehicle in this regard. Where Tesla says sensor fusion is difficult, Volvo are revelling in more sensors and more kinds of them.
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- gonehome 4y agoThe chargers and the heads up display/software nav independent of FSD place them far ahead of anyone else. People complain a lot on HN about the touchscreen but it’s really good and most car systems are really bad. That and their range/performance per dollar is really competitive. They’re dominating the space for a reason imo. The other car companies ignored EVs for a decade and are still hamstrung by dealerships in the US (which are really awful). I don’t expect them to be much of a threat.
- amluto 4y agoThe software and nav? Really? Actually operating the non-driving features of a Tesla is an exercise in every-changing frustration. Want to see if your seat heater is on? It used to be on the screen all the time, but now it's buried. Want to find a radio station or streaming station? It moves around on a regular basis and always takes several taps. At least the nav is decent these days. It used to be comically poor. Although the "heads up display" is essentially absent on the 3 and Y.
- gonehome 4y agoYou can have the seat heaters back on the screen again.
- amluto 4y agoThe driver side heater, anyway. Apparently the passenger side is too much to ask, at least on mine.
- gonehome 4y agoI have the passenger one on there too.
- SteelVoyager 4y agoBoth are available. Not sure what version you’re on, but it’s been back as an option for months.
- buffet_overflow 4y agoThe concern for me is, the user interface can wildly change again because some PM somewhere needs a raise and a bonus. I don’t like the idea of not having a say in things like the heater functionality being arbitrarily buried, and I find out on some random weekday morning that everything is different. This is the opinion of someone that doesn’t own a Tesla and hasn’t had this happen to them, can anyone weigh in on this from experience?
- gonehome 4y agoI have a Model 3, previously had a Fiat 500e, VW GTI, and Saturn. I’ve driven other high end cars and their systems are way harder to use imo. It’s worth just trying yourself vs. listening to people on HN. Most people don’t bother with their in car nav and just use their phone. I’ve heard apple car play isn’t bad though. The Model 3 did have an update that made things worse for a bit, but they fixed it. Since I’ve owned it (2018) it’s much better than it was when I bought it because of updates.
- dagmx 4y agoNo Tesla has a HUD. The rest of your comment is subjective IMHO. Granted Tesla have the most responsive in-car system, I know many people who refuse to buy one if a comparable car with an actual instrument cluster and any form of physical buttons exist. Especially with CarPlay and Android Auto in the mix, many cars offer better experiences than Tesla when coupled with a phone. Tesla’s UI isn’t what makes them dominate the market, it’s their price and first mover advantage. They dominate the market in spite of their UI , not because of it.
- clouddrover 4y ago> the heads up display Teslas don't have a heads up display. Heads up displays are projected on to the windscreen. They make use of augmented reality features these days: - Volkswagen ID EVs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQT5pRs0yCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQT5pRs0yCQ - Audi Q4 e-tron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ7axYz27DE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ7axYz27DE - Mercedes S-class: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk-0TjxFkZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk-0TjxFkZQ
- gonehome 4y agoYes, my bad - I just meant the screen, whatever you want to call that.
- bratao 4y agoThank you, I loved the EX90. Looks better than the Tesla in all aspects.
- chinathrow 4y agoIf you love the EX90, the Polestar 3 might also be out of interest.