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"the force the public to pay for it or face jail time" That is the premise of taxes, yes. I may not get sick enough to justify a hospital visit this decade, ye

"the force the public to pay for it or face jail time" That is the premise of taxes, yes. I may not get sick enough to justify a hospital visit this decade, yet I contribute to socialized healthcare all the same.

throw_m239339 4y ago
> That is the premise of taxes, yes. I may not get sick enough to justify a hospital visit this decade, yet I contribute to socialized healthcare all the same. Nobody should go to jail for refusing to contribute to the local "Pravda". Governments shouldn't be in that line of business at first place. Finally it's not a tax, it's a fee.
- seized 4y ago
  And no one has to pay it since it's a license fee. There are ways to opt out if you don't have a TV. So stop being dramatic.
  - throw_m239339 4y ago
    > And no one has to pay it since it's a license fee. There are ways to opt out if you don't have a TV. So stop being dramatic. You still have to pay it IF you have a TV. That doesn't change my first point as there is absolutely nothing "dramatic" about pointing out the dangers of a media directly controlled by the government. Stop acting like government controlled press isn't prone to manipulating their audience.
- smcl 4y ago
  BBC is more than just BBC News. And while BBC News itself isn't perfect (in recent years under the Tories slipping to the right) it's streets ahead of the various Murdoch news outlets. It's not perfect, but it's not Pravda and describing it as such is quite ridiculous
  - throw_m239339 4y ago
    > It's not perfect, but it's not Pravda and describing it as such is quite ridiculous Of course if you agree with the BBC editorial line, you'll find nothing wrong with the BBC. Just like Fox News audience don't see any problems with Fox News bias. What is ridiculous is thinking that only Murdoch controlled media lies.
    - smcl 4y ago
      I certainly don't always agree with the "BBC editorial line" - it has moved the needle against a few things that I've supported. However it is farcical to compare it to Pravda or even FOX, and I think you're showing how little exposure you've had to the BBC by doing so. > thinking that only Murdoch controlled media lies. I mentioned the various Murdoch properties because they're the most egregious and shameless. There's bias everywhere, and I never said there wasn't
      - throw_m239339 4y ago
        smcl 4y ago
        And I think you're a reactionary fool if you sincerely believe BBC News belongs with Pravda and FOX. But I suspect you don't genuinely think that. I think you threw that line out as a cute little zinger and didn't believe anyone would call you out on it.
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  > Finally it's not a tax, it's a fee. No you're mistaken - it is actually legally a tax and has been since 2006.

throw_m239339 4y ago

> That is the premise of taxes, yes. I may not get sick enough to justify a hospital visit this decade, yet I contribute to socialized healthcare all the same. Nobody should go to jail for refusing to contribute to the local "Pravda". Governments shouldn't be in that line of business at first place. Finally it's not a tax, it's a fee.

seized 4y ago
And no one has to pay it since it's a license fee. There are ways to opt out if you don't have a TV. So stop being dramatic.
- throw_m239339 4y ago
  > And no one has to pay it since it's a license fee. There are ways to opt out if you don't have a TV. So stop being dramatic. You still have to pay it IF you have a TV. That doesn't change my first point as there is absolutely nothing "dramatic" about pointing out the dangers of a media directly controlled by the government. Stop acting like government controlled press isn't prone to manipulating their audience.
smcl 4y ago
BBC is more than just BBC News. And while BBC News itself isn't perfect (in recent years under the Tories slipping to the right) it's streets ahead of the various Murdoch news outlets. It's not perfect, but it's not Pravda and describing it as such is quite ridiculous
- throw_m239339 4y ago
  > It's not perfect, but it's not Pravda and describing it as such is quite ridiculous Of course if you agree with the BBC editorial line, you'll find nothing wrong with the BBC. Just like Fox News audience don't see any problems with Fox News bias. What is ridiculous is thinking that only Murdoch controlled media lies.
  - smcl 4y ago
    I certainly don't always agree with the "BBC editorial line" - it has moved the needle against a few things that I've supported. However it is farcical to compare it to Pravda or even FOX, and I think you're showing how little exposure you've had to the BBC by doing so. > thinking that only Murdoch controlled media lies. I mentioned the various Murdoch properties because they're the most egregious and shameless. There's bias everywhere, and I never said there wasn't
    - throw_m239339 4y ago
      - smcl 4y ago
        And I think you're a reactionary fool if you sincerely believe BBC News belongs with Pravda and FOX. But I suspect you don't genuinely think that. I think you threw that line out as a cute little zinger and didn't believe anyone would call you out on it.
chrisseaton 4y ago
> Finally it's not a tax, it's a fee. No you're mistaken - it is actually legally a tax and has been since 2006.