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All true. It’s not free of government involvement however... Notable is the mention of TikTok, which supplies CCP-curated content that differs by country. http

by 737min 4y ago

All true. It’s not free of government involvement however... Notable is the mention of TikTok, which supplies CCP-curated content that differs by country. https://www.cbsnews.com/video/tiktok-in-china-versus-the-united-states-60-minutes/ https://www.cbsnews.com/video/tiktok-in-china-versus-the-uni...

guntars 4y ago
Wasn’t this debunked? Kids in China, when asked what they want to be when they grow up, overwhelmingly say influencer.
- ekanes 4y ago
  How does that debunk the concept of CCP-curated content?
  - guntars 4y ago
    These are all claims by one guy (Tristan Harris) who's made a career out of speaking against social media. He claims that the Chinese version of TikTok is the "spinach" version and serves more wholesome science content. He doesn't say that this is because of CCP involvement, ByteDance manipulation on their own accord or because Chinese children choose this type of content. He does go on to say that as a result of this, most children express desire to be astronauts when they grow up. If this last part isn't true, why should we believe anything else he says? Even if it is true, why should we believe him? He doesn't offer any evidence. It's a bit weird to find myself in a position of defending a social media app. There are a lot of people in the US who have a reason to be upset with its existence. I think it played a key role in the last election, because that's where Gen-Z spends their time. Similarly the execs at Google and Facebook have a reason to want it gone, but you don't see them publicly lamenting how they don't make as much ad revenue as they used to. The negative comments here on HN at least are always some version of "national security" and "think of the children".
saiya-jin 4y ago
Heck, even pornhub shows you different content in different countries... at least a friend told me so. I guess CCP involvment is guaranteed in some form, but I would expect rather light touch and strong monitoring. To spot dissent early and weed it out in the roots. And to have something for blackmails on everybody in future.
- leetbulb 4y ago
  > Heck, even pornhub shows you different content in different countries... at least a friend told me so. This is true, and even more fine grained. All content driven industries optimize their delivery to target audiences.
  - 737min 4y ago
    OC here - the point is that there is a difference between a for-profit content push and a totalitarian government content push.

by 737min 4y ago

guntars 4y ago

Wasn’t this debunked? Kids in China, when asked what they want to be when they grow up, overwhelmingly say influencer.

ekanes 4y ago
How does that debunk the concept of CCP-curated content?
- guntars 4y ago
  These are all claims by one guy (Tristan Harris) who's made a career out of speaking against social media. He claims that the Chinese version of TikTok is the "spinach" version and serves more wholesome science content. He doesn't say that this is because of CCP involvement, ByteDance manipulation on their own accord or because Chinese children choose this type of content. He does go on to say that as a result of this, most children express desire to be astronauts when they grow up. If this last part isn't true, why should we believe anything else he says? Even if it is true, why should we believe him? He doesn't offer any evidence. It's a bit weird to find myself in a position of defending a social media app. There are a lot of people in the US who have a reason to be upset with its existence. I think it played a key role in the last election, because that's where Gen-Z spends their time. Similarly the execs at Google and Facebook have a reason to want it gone, but you don't see them publicly lamenting how they don't make as much ad revenue as they used to. The negative comments here on HN at least are always some version of "national security" and "think of the children".

saiya-jin 4y ago

Heck, even pornhub shows you different content in different countries... at least a friend told me so. I guess CCP involvment is guaranteed in some form, but I would expect rather light touch and strong monitoring. To spot dissent early and weed it out in the roots. And to have something for blackmails on everybody in future.

leetbulb 4y ago
> Heck, even pornhub shows you different content in different countries... at least a friend told me so. This is true, and even more fine grained. All content driven industries optimize their delivery to target audiences.
- 737min 4y ago
  OC here - the point is that there is a difference between a for-profit content push and a totalitarian government content push.