- you don't even know the difference between a sheep and a cow. that's not a "typo" - that's a clue that you are frothing at the mouth and spewing your anger so

- you don't even know the difference between a sheep and a cow. that's not a "typo" - that's a clue that you are frothing at the mouth and spewing your anger so fast that you don't even know what you are saying. - you post facts that aren't true. your original post contained 100% fiction. - you defend them with a video that doesn't actually back you up. - you still haven't defended that any animal production, veal, not even foie gras, has any aspect of an animal being forced to drink urine, let alone due to anemia. that's just untrue. > "same flawed reasoning that every. single. carnist." - it's not flawed to use logic and facts vs. the emotional appeal, such as the video you posted. - perhaps the reason every. single. meat-loving. animal-loving. person. uses the same arguments is because they are right and are more logical and moral than your propagandized appeals (that are not really even arguments). you are allowed to believe anything you want to - that's your prerogative. but you need to stop hallucinating that you sane and everybody else is "insane" and wrong. you are the one making terrible attempts at arguments and sounding both quite bitter and agitated. > we can find time to video chat. I'll zoom you the next time it's time to kill and pluck one of the chickens. that'll definitely change your mind. <- see that's how you sound.