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> And how does it make sense for a space pioneer to support a political party currently dominated by Young Earth Creationists? What is the correlation (or cont

> And how does it make sense for a space pioneer to support a political party currently dominated by Young Earth Creationists? What is the correlation (or contradiction) here? I do not know what a Young or Old Earth creationist is and the corresponding Wikipedia entries are more rabbit-hole inducing than I’d like to endeavor upon. I do understand the general thesis of the author’s lament, his ideological influences aside. I think that social media as it is popularly perceived is dead for anyone who wants to use the internet with some sense of dignity or literacy. In my opinion, the future of social communication online will be led by the “anti-social”; meaning people who do not care about protocols, engagements, “The Fediverse”, the “SmolWeb” or anything like that. They are driven by a basic interest in sharing files/data/whatever via the internet. There is no glowing, humanistic, vaguely vogue vernacular associated to it. “I’m going to send you a tarball of my grandparents favorite recipes in OPML format. If you don't know what any of that means and don’t want to learn, how could you ever fathom putting in the effort necessary to prepare their 7 cheese lasagna? Things take time, Allen!”

pronlover723 4y ago
It a stupid "republicans believe in creationism and democrats don't" falsehood. 68% of democrats believe in creationism vs 72% of republicans. That's hardly a difference.
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  Whats your source for these numbers? America has a lot of people who believe evolution happened but was guided by god, and very few (1 in 9) who belive it was just evolution with no god, but the ones that belive that there was no evolution lean fairly heavily Republican.
- lapcat 4y ago
  I can't find more recent polls at the moment, but polls from 2014 and 2008 show a 20% partisan gap in "no evolution" beliefs: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/03/republican-views-on-evolution-tracking-how-its-changed/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/03/republican-... https://news.gallup.com/poll/108226/republicans-democrats-differ-creationism.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/108226/republicans-democrats-di... And the ultra-religious Republicans tend to turn out heavily in their primaries to select candidates for office, which skews the politics even further.
  - the-printer 4y ago
    Hello, author(?). I was more so interested in how belief or association with those who believe in "creationism" compromises business/technological endeavors in space exploration. A more simple question could be: "Why can't space pioneers support Republicans?" but that would only serve as an abstraction over what I'm really trying to figure out.
    - lapcat 4y ago
      > Hello, author(?). Correct. Hello. > I was more so interested in how belief or association with those who believe in "creationism" compromises business/technological endeavors in space exploration. I'm talking about people who literally believe the Earth is only thousands of years old, which is 100% contrary to all space science. And if one happens to believe that Jesus is going to come back any day now and take us — well, maybe not me, but take some people — up to Heaven, then one probably has a very different attitude toward climate change than those who believe that the Earth's environment needs to last humanity for millions of years more, if humanity is to survive that long. According to the ultra-religious folk, God made the Earth for humanity, not Mars, so what do they even care about Mars? Instead of repudiating science denial, Musk says "Unless it is stopped, the woke mind virus will destroy civilization and humanity will never reached Mars." So he's clearly chosen sides, and picked his battles. But it's not the side or battle you would expect if his life goal was saving the environment and supporting scientific exploration.
      - the-printer 4y ago
        I understand your position better now and I’ve noted your take on the positions of who you’re referring to as well. I can see how you perceive contradictions in Musk’s alignments. Thank you.

pronlover723 4y ago

It a stupid "republicans believe in creationism and democrats don't" falsehood. 68% of democrats believe in creationism vs 72% of republicans. That's hardly a difference.

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
Whats your source for these numbers? America has a lot of people who believe evolution happened but was guided by god, and very few (1 in 9) who belive it was just evolution with no god, but the ones that belive that there was no evolution lean fairly heavily Republican.
lapcat 4y ago
I can't find more recent polls at the moment, but polls from 2014 and 2008 show a 20% partisan gap in "no evolution" beliefs: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/03/republican-views-on-evolution-tracking-how-its-changed/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/03/republican-... https://news.gallup.com/poll/108226/republicans-democrats-differ-creationism.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/108226/republicans-democrats-di... And the ultra-religious Republicans tend to turn out heavily in their primaries to select candidates for office, which skews the politics even further.
- the-printer 4y ago
  Hello, author(?). I was more so interested in how belief or association with those who believe in "creationism" compromises business/technological endeavors in space exploration. A more simple question could be: "Why can't space pioneers support Republicans?" but that would only serve as an abstraction over what I'm really trying to figure out.
  - lapcat 4y ago
    > Hello, author(?). Correct. Hello. > I was more so interested in how belief or association with those who believe in "creationism" compromises business/technological endeavors in space exploration. I'm talking about people who literally believe the Earth is only thousands of years old, which is 100% contrary to all space science. And if one happens to believe that Jesus is going to come back any day now and take us — well, maybe not me, but take some people — up to Heaven, then one probably has a very different attitude toward climate change than those who believe that the Earth's environment needs to last humanity for millions of years more, if humanity is to survive that long. According to the ultra-religious folk, God made the Earth for humanity, not Mars, so what do they even care about Mars? Instead of repudiating science denial, Musk says "Unless it is stopped, the woke mind virus will destroy civilization and humanity will never reached Mars." So he's clearly chosen sides, and picked his battles. But it's not the side or battle you would expect if his life goal was saving the environment and supporting scientific exploration.
    - the-printer 4y ago
      I understand your position better now and I’ve noted your take on the positions of who you’re referring to as well. I can see how you perceive contradictions in Musk’s alignments. Thank you.