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> So, for my part, I’ll be moving on. My account will still exist, and I’ll perhaps use it to share posts from here, to help people migrate elsewhere, or to kee
by Grimburger 4y ago
> So, for my part, I’ll be moving on. My account will still exist, and I’ll perhaps use it to share posts from here, to help people migrate elsewhere, or to keep up with the increasingly few people I care about still on the platform. Instead, I’ll be posting in long-form here (subscribe!)
That's the meat of the article if you are looking for it.
I've always enjoyed pwn's content but will take a few $10 bets on them still using Twitter heavily 1 year from now.
Reminds me of election season with all the people moving to Canada frankly, it's predictable as the moon phases.
- xdfgh1112 4y agoYeah. Nobody is leaving for Mastodon.
- rapsey 4y agoMastodon is the linux desktop of social networks.
- karmakurtisaani 4y agoCool, maybe I'll join!
- robin_reala 4y agoThe majority of my active network on Twitter have now created Mastodon accounts and are posting there more than on Twitter. Maybe it’s my frontend web dev bubble?
- Jorengarenar 4y agoI wouldn't be surprised if vast majority of Twitter users not only do not care but even isn't really aware of ownership change.
- Swenrekcah 4y agoUnless the bots are sentient I suppose that’s true!
- MattDemers 4y agoThe ones that have from mine are just using their accounts to complaining about Twitter. Which doesn't create sustainable communities on Mastodon instances that survive this kind of spike in activity.
- simonw 4y agoI've been on Twitter for 16 years and accumulated 43,000 followers on there. I've been on Mastodon for 2 weeks and I'm up to 7,900 already. The numbers on Mastodon are pretty impressive. More importantly, my timeline over there is full of interesting people talking about a variety of interesting things.
- beebmam 4y agoThere's an emacs mastodon that is delightful!
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- Jorengarenar 4y agoThe difference is you built your Twitter followship from ground up, while Mastodon had boost from your already existing followers.
- ergocoder 4y agoCan't believe he missed this crucial factor. He tweeted his mastodon link that got 44 retweets. He talked about mastodon (no link) and got another 59 retweets. He also put mastodon link on his profile. I mean those should help build his followers on mastodon by a large margin.
- simonw 4y agoSure, there are a ton of reasons I've been able to grow my audience on Mastodon this quickly. But despite those reasons, the activity this represents still works as a counter to the claim I was replying to here that "no one is switching to Mastodon".
- throwaway290 4y agoI think the number of follows does not represent the number of actual readers. E.g. I know you from your long-form posts on Django and such, and considering current buzz might log in to Mastodon just to give you a follow and go back to never checking it. That, plus Mastodon does not benefit from central spam account squashing authority. Of course, the discrepancy of follower/actual reader numbers also exists in case of Twitter, but if I had to bet I'd say it has the potential to be stronger on Mastodon.
- whateveracct 4y agoWhen I quit Twitter years ago, I didn't move to an alternative. I just spent my time differently.
- AlexandrB 4y agoYup. Now I spend way too much time posting on HN. I did try Mastodon for a while, but it wasn't as "sticky".
- MiguelX413 4y agoThe Fediverse isn't trying to be a stand-in alternative, nor should it be used as one. It won't algorithmically serve content to maximize your engagement and attention to sell to advertisers. It's there for those who are interested in it. Some just find it a more libre platform that's useful as they want to move away from Twitter. I say this as someone who has been on the Fediverse for years but has never in their life used Twitte for more than a day, or ever enjoyed it.
- Herbstluft 4y agoSince last week every person on Twitter whose content I came to appreciate moved over to Mastodon. Science, tech and gamedev/art people are absolutely leaving for Mastodon. The only part of my follows left on Twitter now are the people producing the average low quality content (gossip, memes, current drama etc.)
- MiguelX413 4y agoThe Fediverse doesn't have an algorithm or reason to promote and thus provide any audience for those things, thankfully. Thus they have no reason to be on the Fediverse because they'd just be shouting into a void.
- MiguelX413 4y agohttps://techcrunch.com/2022/11/07/boosted-by-twitter-drama-mastodon-reaches-1-million-active-monthly-users https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/07/boosted-by-twitter-drama-m... That's just factually false.
- colin_jack 4y agoI thought so too but the combination of switching app (to metatext) and importing follower list (https://debirdify.pruvisto.org/ https://debirdify.pruvisto.org/) means it’s starting to feel pretty pleasant.
- Kye 4y ago2 million people in the last two weeks is a big nobody. It's tangible as someone who's been on since 2016 through all the smaller waves as subcommunities of Twitter migrated. Something is different this time. My bias is toward a slow growth like we've had so far, so read this as concerned, not crowing.
- philipov 4y agoAt this point, it's no longer a given that Twitter will still be physically functional in one year.
- poopsmithe 4y agoI keep hearing this, but where is the evidence?
- baq 4y agoElon said it himself in an internal leaked email. It can go bankrupt easily and it seems advertisers are leaving in droves. They might come back once volatility settles down, but it isn’t a given.
- christkv 4y agoI seem to have more ads than ever in my feed now.
- MiguelX413 4y agoI don't see why density would have anything to do with quantity.
- mhoad 4y agoThe number of ads you are seeing in your feed is them freaking out for the exact reason OP mentioned. The major advertisers who were previously spending millions per year in what was essentially guaranteed revenue. The ads in my feed have gone from things like my bank to magic brain pills that you might find on Alex Jones almost overnight. They are in deep trouble here.
- wokwokwok 4y agoWhat evidence do you want? The majority of the staff have left. Tangible fact. The site is having outages. Tangible fact. Mastodon usage is significantly up. Tangible fact. People make vague hand wavey gestures about Twitter having better than ever engagement or usage or whatever… but there are no stats to back it up, so who knows? Come on! Compared to 6 months ago the service is empirically worse. It’s unbelievable to me someone can stand here and go “where the proof dude??” with what’s happening. Is it going to be gone in a year? Who knows? No one’s knows the future. Is it reasonable to say, given the recent state of the platform is, the probability of the platform being gone in a year is now significantly greater than it was six months ago? Probably, I would say, yes. The empirical evidence suggests so. I’m not saying there’s a 100% chance of that; no one is saying that; but it’s greater than it was. You have to really make an effort to believe otherwise.
- benjaminwootton 4y agoI must have seen 50 people quitting Twitter. Pretty much every one has continued Tweeting at exactly the same rate.
- verytrivial 4y agoI can't judge the rate because I never precisely knew how much people actually tweeted, only how much Twitter wanted to show me. As for not deleting accounts, did people actually delete their MySpace accounts? Or just slowly start using them less over time? (FWIW I have just unfollowed everyone I was following and will keep an account purely to reduce login nagging when following a Twitter link.)
- mikro2nd 4y agoI think what's going on in those cases is that people are heavily invested in Twitter, believing their bulk audience is there, but (understandably) want to hedge their bets. Lots of them are posting the same stuff to both Twitter and Mastodon (tooling exists) and they'll wait and see how it pans out. As they see more interaction on Mastodon, perhaps they'll migrate their focus, too. Interesting time, for sure.
- invalidname 4y agoI think what you're seeing is bridges like https://moa.party/ https://moa.party/ which just tweet what people post on Mastodon. Same content but not the same engagement.
- Gigachad 4y agoReminds me of when everyone left Github for GitLab as microsoft bought it. Or everyone leaving Reddit when the new CEOs and subreddit bans came.
- shapefrog 4y agoReminds me of when everyone left tumblr