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I don't think you realize how scant charging is if you live in an urban area. No charger at most apartments, and your workplace might not even have parking. Ama

I don't think you realize how scant charging is if you live in an urban area. No charger at most apartments, and your workplace might not even have parking. Amazon offices in Seattle are notorious for occupied chargers. "Then why have a car?" We like to drive out to the mountains on the weekend, frequently. So then we drive a lot on the weekend and barely get a chance to charge on a weekday. You might have to set aside several hours at a parking lot at a mall to charge it which quite a chore. My Tacoma only has 380 mile range and I still get range anxiety sometimes with finding gas. RAV4 Prime with 600 mile range is the dream, but you can't buy them unless you pay $10k markup. Driving a lot + urban (not suburban) living makes electric cars a tough sell.

thatfrenchguy 4y ago
In the Bay Area, even in San Francisco it’s fine? There’s a bunch of fast chargers everywhere at Safeways and Whole Foods, most big companies have fast charging, and most old buildings with a garage have at least a 120v plug on your meter?
therealrootuser 4y ago
> you can't buy [RAV4 Prime] unless you pay $10k markup Quite frankly, many people can't buy a RAV4 Prime at any price regardless of markups due to availability. My local dealer just quoted me a wait time of up to 18 months for a non-pluggable RAV4 Hybrid because there are simply no chips to go around.
com2kid 4y ago
The Cascades are well under 90 miles from Seattle. A complete trip to the Cascades and back can be done in well under 250 miles, and regen breaking will be your best friend on the way back home! I'll grant that going to the Olympic national forest is 122 miles one way, so some range issues there for sure. > AV4 Prime with 600 mile range is the dream, Boise is 500 miles one way! The entire point of living in Seattle is to that nature is insanely close by. (Sure as heck isn't for the friendly faces on the street or the affordable tasty food!)

thatfrenchguy 4y ago

In the Bay Area, even in San Francisco it’s fine? There’s a bunch of fast chargers everywhere at Safeways and Whole Foods, most big companies have fast charging, and most old buildings with a garage have at least a 120v plug on your meter?

therealrootuser 4y ago

> you can't buy [RAV4 Prime] unless you pay $10k markup Quite frankly, many people can't buy a RAV4 Prime at any price regardless of markups due to availability. My local dealer just quoted me a wait time of up to 18 months for a non-pluggable RAV4 Hybrid because there are simply no chips to go around.

com2kid 4y ago

The Cascades are well under 90 miles from Seattle. A complete trip to the Cascades and back can be done in well under 250 miles, and regen breaking will be your best friend on the way back home! I'll grant that going to the Olympic national forest is 122 miles one way, so some range issues there for sure. > AV4 Prime with 600 mile range is the dream, Boise is 500 miles one way! The entire point of living in Seattle is to that nature is insanely close by. (Sure as heck isn't for the friendly faces on the street or the affordable tasty food!)