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I have the old Ioniq model (2017-2019) and it has truly gone under the radar with many car/EV enthusiasts. The top of the line model has most features us in col

I have the old Ioniq model (2017-2019) and it has truly gone under the radar with many car/EV enthusiasts. The top of the line model has most features us in colder climates (heated steering wheel, seat warmers for the rear seats, even cooled seats for the summer) as well as nice tech features such as a pretty good lane assistant and CarPlay/Android Auto. Charges from 20% to 80% in about 20 minutes at maximum speed (70kW) and can go 200km on a full battery. It has to be the "best of the rest" when it comes to budget EVs and it definitely seems reliable due based on me browsing the used models online and seeing how the Ioniqs didn't have a lengthy list of fixes that are attributed to a make or model (kind of like the several problems that plague slightly older Model S). The only thing missing from the old gen is a smartphone app connection to preheat (newer Ioniq has this, but has a slower fast charging speed). For someone with a predictable driving pattern in Europe I can highly recommend it. If the Ioniq 5 is as high quality as the old Ioniq, and the 6 builds upon that more, it should be an exciting model.

QuarterReptile 4y ago
>Charges from 20% to 80% in about 20 minutes at maximum speed (70kW) Can your house supply this power? Quick lazy math suggests that that's almost double my home's entire max power throughput.
- thatfrenchguy 4y ago
  At home you have time (because your car spends a lot of, if not 99% of its time parked!), so you charge at 6-7kw usually.
- fshbbdssbbgdd 4y ago
  The car has long enough range for daily commutes and errands, so home charging only needs to complete overnight. Fast charging is only necessary during long road trips. At least, that’s true for the vast majority of people. In the edge case where you drive two hundreds miles, come home, then start another long drive, you’d need to go to a rapid charger.
  - sieabahlpark 4y ago
- parker_mountain 4y ago
  Most newer houses, at least in my area, have 96kW max service.
  - 3000000001 4y ago
    This sounds crazy to me! Where do you live? In my area (central Italy) most houses have a 7kW (230V 32A) connection
    - throw_me_5555 4y ago
      7kW sounds low to me, no one around goes under 10kW, with 12-15 being typical. That said I never heard about home connection over 30kW. Power company charges monthly for available power, so no one goes with huge 3phase connection just in case they might need it.
      - tropin 4y ago
        Spain here: everybody around me gets surprised when I say I have 6,5kW installed, they think is crazy high. A quick google search tells me our average is between 3,45kW and 4,6kW. https://selectra.es/energia/tramites/potencia-electrica-contratada https://selectra.es/energia/tramites/potencia-electrica-cont...
    - bskap 4y ago
      Is that single phase or 3 phase? Most homes in the US have somewhere in the range of 100-200A single phase hookup.
    - SECProto 4y ago
      Many places in North America use electric for almost everything - heating, cooling, hot water. 240V 100A used to be common (24kW) but people would run up against that limit, so most new houses have been 200A for a while (48kW). I don't know where that person is that a 400A service is the most common, but I've never seen it outside of wasteful mcmansions (4000+ sqft with associated excessive heating and cooling requirements, hot tub, sauna, heated pool, every room gets a 20A breaker or two, etc.)
- avalys 4y ago
  Why would you need to charge your car in 20 minutes at home? By far the most common home charging use case is to charge when you're home for the night, which is usually 10+ hours for most people. Fast chargers are for road trips.
- serpix 4y ago
  The use pattern is different. You leave it overnight on a standard socket and it will charge fully. Or leave it charging while going to work. I don't have charging at home at all and charge at work which keeps me comfortably topped up. If I lack any charge on the weekends I just top up once in a fast charger for about 10 minutes. Fast chargers are probably now or very soon more common than gas stations around Southern Finland.
  - Thlom 4y ago
    Most gas stations in Norway have or is in the process of getting charging stations. The only thing that sucks big time is the payment process. With gas you present your card and then fill your tank. Easy. With chargers you have to download an app, register an account, put in your payment details, find the charger in the app and then you can charge (if it works). And there’s tens of different charging companies, all with their own app. Infuriating.
    - msh 4y ago
      In Denmark many of the networks implement roaming, so you can use your preferred app to pay for most charging.
- originalvichy 4y ago
  I should have been clearer as people who know EVs intuitively know I meant fast charging. Home charging speeds vary quite a lot since the vehicle comes with a normal household plug charger as well as a dedicated EV charger cable for <22kW.
F_r_k 4y ago
I have this same car (made in 2016 for me) and I would never trade it for the world. Comfortable enough, efficient, and quite good imho

QuarterReptile 4y ago

>Charges from 20% to 80% in about 20 minutes at maximum speed (70kW) Can your house supply this power? Quick lazy math suggests that that's almost double my home's entire max power throughput.

thatfrenchguy 4y ago
At home you have time (because your car spends a lot of, if not 99% of its time parked!), so you charge at 6-7kw usually.
fshbbdssbbgdd 4y ago
The car has long enough range for daily commutes and errands, so home charging only needs to complete overnight. Fast charging is only necessary during long road trips. At least, that’s true for the vast majority of people. In the edge case where you drive two hundreds miles, come home, then start another long drive, you’d need to go to a rapid charger.
- sieabahlpark 4y ago
parker_mountain 4y ago
Most newer houses, at least in my area, have 96kW max service.
- 3000000001 4y ago
  This sounds crazy to me! Where do you live? In my area (central Italy) most houses have a 7kW (230V 32A) connection
  - throw_me_5555 4y ago
    7kW sounds low to me, no one around goes under 10kW, with 12-15 being typical. That said I never heard about home connection over 30kW. Power company charges monthly for available power, so no one goes with huge 3phase connection just in case they might need it.
    - tropin 4y ago
      Spain here: everybody around me gets surprised when I say I have 6,5kW installed, they think is crazy high. A quick google search tells me our average is between 3,45kW and 4,6kW. https://selectra.es/energia/tramites/potencia-electrica-contratada https://selectra.es/energia/tramites/potencia-electrica-cont...
  - bskap 4y ago
    Is that single phase or 3 phase? Most homes in the US have somewhere in the range of 100-200A single phase hookup.
  - SECProto 4y ago
    Many places in North America use electric for almost everything - heating, cooling, hot water. 240V 100A used to be common (24kW) but people would run up against that limit, so most new houses have been 200A for a while (48kW). I don't know where that person is that a 400A service is the most common, but I've never seen it outside of wasteful mcmansions (4000+ sqft with associated excessive heating and cooling requirements, hot tub, sauna, heated pool, every room gets a 20A breaker or two, etc.)
avalys 4y ago
Why would you need to charge your car in 20 minutes at home? By far the most common home charging use case is to charge when you're home for the night, which is usually 10+ hours for most people. Fast chargers are for road trips.
serpix 4y ago
The use pattern is different. You leave it overnight on a standard socket and it will charge fully. Or leave it charging while going to work. I don't have charging at home at all and charge at work which keeps me comfortably topped up. If I lack any charge on the weekends I just top up once in a fast charger for about 10 minutes. Fast chargers are probably now or very soon more common than gas stations around Southern Finland.
- Thlom 4y ago
  Most gas stations in Norway have or is in the process of getting charging stations. The only thing that sucks big time is the payment process. With gas you present your card and then fill your tank. Easy. With chargers you have to download an app, register an account, put in your payment details, find the charger in the app and then you can charge (if it works). And there’s tens of different charging companies, all with their own app. Infuriating.
  - msh 4y ago
    In Denmark many of the networks implement roaming, so you can use your preferred app to pay for most charging.
originalvichy 4y ago
I should have been clearer as people who know EVs intuitively know I meant fast charging. Home charging speeds vary quite a lot since the vehicle comes with a normal household plug charger as well as a dedicated EV charger cable for <22kW.

F_r_k 4y ago

I have this same car (made in 2016 for me) and I would never trade it for the world. Comfortable enough, efficient, and quite good imho