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> Almost all software which is why it's less of a technical problem and more of a social problem people need to realize that with how the technology is today

> Almost all software which is why it's less of a technical problem and more of a social problem people need to realize that with how the technology is today we can't afford to rely on marked self regulation for a lot of things especially wrt. privacy protection it just fundamentally does not work (Or in other words, such usage of employee surveillance should be just plain out forbidden by law not just to be used but to be deployed)

scaramanga 4y ago
In order to do that, people are going to have to go to the ballot boxes and vote. And when they do that, they're going to discover that there are no good options there. Then they're going realise that they have to create those options, and there's no grown-up to do it for them now. Then it dawns on them that they are not even members of any political organisations, nor are they in a union. It's like they've lived their whole lives without ever even having used their rights to freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of assembly, freedom to join political organisations, freedom to create political organisations, freedom to stand for office, or even considered using them before in any meaningful way, so it's like a nation of infants contemplating the idea of taking the wheel of a car. It's terrifying.
beefield 4y ago
I have this feeling that with the increasing complexity and sophistication of the technical environment/tools we have in our hands, there is an increasing amount of people simply unable to cope with everyday challenges of modern society. Of course, there have always been these kind of people, but in the old days they were easily identified groups of disabled and elderly people, who, most importantly, understood also themselves that they need help. The bleak future I see that increasing amount of normal people with normal intelligence are just going to be financially destroyed, all while they themselves believe that they are fully qualified and justified to decide whether their money is "invested" in the next cryptard scheme, sent to a nigerian prince to get millions, or put in a crappy health insurance covering accidents once in a blue moon, instead of those damn government elite experts taking their money and actually providing health care and pension. And after they are destroyed, they become even more hostile against the "elite experts" who just seem to be laughing at their faces "told you so". (To be extremely clear here: I believe intelligence is a highly multi-dimensional thing. And yu can be intelligent only in very limited dimensions. so practically all of us - me very much included - are morons in most of the dimensions. So I am not pointing here to any specific group, but all of us are vulnerable in some dimension. I may be able to above average avoiding certain kind of scams, but I am for sure vulnerable - even laughable stupid looking afterwards - for face-to-face friendly scams. Which, luckily to me, are typically not expensive.) Unfortunately I have no good solution anywhere in sight. The best idea I have so far is to mock online the idiots who think Ayn Rand was a genius. I have to admit, though, that even that is likely to be useless even in the best case, so most of the time I try to just bite my lip.
MikePlacid 4y ago
> such usage of employee surveillance should be just plain out forbidden by law By law, like by some Patriot act?

scaramanga 4y ago

In order to do that, people are going to have to go to the ballot boxes and vote. And when they do that, they're going to discover that there are no good options there. Then they're going realise that they have to create those options, and there's no grown-up to do it for them now. Then it dawns on them that they are not even members of any political organisations, nor are they in a union. It's like they've lived their whole lives without ever even having used their rights to freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of assembly, freedom to join political organisations, freedom to create political organisations, freedom to stand for office, or even considered using them before in any meaningful way, so it's like a nation of infants contemplating the idea of taking the wheel of a car. It's terrifying.

beefield 4y ago

I have this feeling that with the increasing complexity and sophistication of the technical environment/tools we have in our hands, there is an increasing amount of people simply unable to cope with everyday challenges of modern society. Of course, there have always been these kind of people, but in the old days they were easily identified groups of disabled and elderly people, who, most importantly, understood also themselves that they need help. The bleak future I see that increasing amount of normal people with normal intelligence are just going to be financially destroyed, all while they themselves believe that they are fully qualified and justified to decide whether their money is "invested" in the next cryptard scheme, sent to a nigerian prince to get millions, or put in a crappy health insurance covering accidents once in a blue moon, instead of those damn government elite experts taking their money and actually providing health care and pension. And after they are destroyed, they become even more hostile against the "elite experts" who just seem to be laughing at their faces "told you so". (To be extremely clear here: I believe intelligence is a highly multi-dimensional thing. And yu can be intelligent only in very limited dimensions. so practically all of us - me very much included - are morons in most of the dimensions. So I am not pointing here to any specific group, but all of us are vulnerable in some dimension. I may be able to above average avoiding certain kind of scams, but I am for sure vulnerable - even laughable stupid looking afterwards - for face-to-face friendly scams. Which, luckily to me, are typically not expensive.) Unfortunately I have no good solution anywhere in sight. The best idea I have so far is to mock online the idiots who think Ayn Rand was a genius. I have to admit, though, that even that is likely to be useless even in the best case, so most of the time I try to just bite my lip.

MikePlacid 4y ago

> such usage of employee surveillance should be just plain out forbidden by law By law, like by some Patriot act?