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Mastodon account suspended for being “capitalist”

21 points by dibt 4y ago

postultimate 4y ago
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hobbitstan 4y ago
incomingpain 4y ago
Mastodon has years of history of being anti-capitalism and anti-free speech. Best move along and not worry you got suspended.
thesid 4y ago
Maybe find an instance which works with your ideology?
MallocVoidstar 4y ago
The instance states it is anarchist/communist. Why join that instance if you're a capitalist?
- yucky 4y ago
  What better way to debate ideas than to be where discussion takes place with people of an opposite ideology? Staying in echo chambers is not good for anything. How do people expect to learn if they aren't willing to challenge their preconceived ideas? For instance, I love to read Jacobin and Catalyst Journal precisely because the quality of writing and scholarship is unmatched on an ideology I don't ascribe to.
  - lern_too_spel 4y ago
    On the other hand, I don't read Reason, Quillette, or Jacobin precisely because their thinking is so sloppy. Sharpening your ideas doesn't require reading Ken Ham's books. Reading drivel, no matter how well written, is a waste of time.
    - yucky 4y ago
      Well sure, as you allude to there are others who prefer to read CNN, FOX News, Reddit etc.
      - lern_too_spel 4y ago
        That's just poorly written drivel. The point is to not waste your time on drivel. You appear to do so just because the lexile score is high enough, with the predictable result being that your own arguments are sloppy.
themodelplumber 4y ago
If you apply the "Mastodon is Twitter" model, then this story makes Mastodon look like garbage. If you apply the "Mastodon instance is a Subreddit" model, it makes a lot more sense. You can start to see why Mastodon views more decentralized moderation as part of the creation process, and that's important. At the same time, the concept can't really exist in the user experience on Twitter, by design. Still, there's much more to it than even that... It's such early days with new social media that IMO the specific mental models people apply will make a huge difference in how they interpret the experience that unrolls before them...and when their interpretation of a discouraging event based on a broad model goes viral, it raises a ton of dust in the form of fears / doubts.
- dibt 4y ago
  >If you apply the "Mastodon instance is a Subreddit" model, this makes more sense. Shouldn't this mean a ban on one instance allows you to still access other instances? That was not the case here. Even moving the account was not permitted after the ban.
  - simfree 4y ago
    You can still sign up on any other instance. OP was even permitted to migrate their followers and setup a redirect after reaching out to the mods. Your not entitled to free hosting by an instance, if they object to your content or actions they will ban you.
    - dibt 4y ago
      >redirect after reaching out to the mods That's the thing I find noteworthy about the incident. I guess it's a disagreement with the definition of "decentralized." I suppose the mods were kind enough to allow it after appeal, but I don't see why they should be involved in the decision. I would expect it to be the minimum functionality to remain.
      - simfree 4y ago
smoldesu 4y ago
It seems they didn't read the rules of the instance: https://octodon.social/about https://octodon.social/about (verbatim:) > 1. i will not be free until everyone is liberated > 2. we will not suffer corporate advertising > 3. spiderule (this is a non exhaustive list)
- dibt 4y ago
  from a reply: "As for server rules they changed in the 5 years I joined the server. I first joined it in 2017." The surprising thing is that one instance can ban you, which prevents the account from being moved to another instance.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    Posts cannot be moved to other instances even if you are unbanned. You can only redirect your account to other instances, which they appealed for (the moderators obliged) and he's now on another site. You should read the updated thread.
simplotek 4y ago
This tweet is bullshit To start off, the victimized fool was not suspended from Mastodon. The fool tried to join a specific Mastodon instance which is highly political. Here's a link to the instance's about page. https://octodon.social/about https://octodon.social/about > a feminist, anarchist, communist, cyberpunk culture and many trans and queer people, often with tech or scientific interests. > "I'm not Twitter, I'll fuck up nazis, transphobes and bullies for fun". Going into one of these instances publicly presenting yourself as a "capitalist" is a blatant and very transparent attempt at trolling regulars.
wildrhythms 4y ago
Having a laugh at the idea that "Founder of ... the portfolio tracker" and "#etherum developer" joined an openly communist Mastodon server.

21 points by dibt 4y ago

postultimate 4y ago

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hobbitstan 4y ago

incomingpain 4y ago

Mastodon has years of history of being anti-capitalism and anti-free speech. Best move along and not worry you got suspended.

thesid 4y ago

Maybe find an instance which works with your ideology?

MallocVoidstar 4y ago

The instance states it is anarchist/communist. Why join that instance if you're a capitalist?

yucky 4y ago
What better way to debate ideas than to be where discussion takes place with people of an opposite ideology? Staying in echo chambers is not good for anything. How do people expect to learn if they aren't willing to challenge their preconceived ideas? For instance, I love to read Jacobin and Catalyst Journal precisely because the quality of writing and scholarship is unmatched on an ideology I don't ascribe to.
- lern_too_spel 4y ago
  On the other hand, I don't read Reason, Quillette, or Jacobin precisely because their thinking is so sloppy. Sharpening your ideas doesn't require reading Ken Ham's books. Reading drivel, no matter how well written, is a waste of time.
  - yucky 4y ago
    Well sure, as you allude to there are others who prefer to read CNN, FOX News, Reddit etc.
    - lern_too_spel 4y ago
      That's just poorly written drivel. The point is to not waste your time on drivel. You appear to do so just because the lexile score is high enough, with the predictable result being that your own arguments are sloppy.

themodelplumber 4y ago

If you apply the "Mastodon is Twitter" model, then this story makes Mastodon look like garbage. If you apply the "Mastodon instance is a Subreddit" model, it makes a lot more sense. You can start to see why Mastodon views more decentralized moderation as part of the creation process, and that's important. At the same time, the concept can't really exist in the user experience on Twitter, by design. Still, there's much more to it than even that... It's such early days with new social media that IMO the specific mental models people apply will make a huge difference in how they interpret the experience that unrolls before them...and when their interpretation of a discouraging event based on a broad model goes viral, it raises a ton of dust in the form of fears / doubts.

dibt 4y ago
>If you apply the "Mastodon instance is a Subreddit" model, this makes more sense. Shouldn't this mean a ban on one instance allows you to still access other instances? That was not the case here. Even moving the account was not permitted after the ban.
- simfree 4y ago
  You can still sign up on any other instance. OP was even permitted to migrate their followers and setup a redirect after reaching out to the mods. Your not entitled to free hosting by an instance, if they object to your content or actions they will ban you.
  - dibt 4y ago
    >redirect after reaching out to the mods That's the thing I find noteworthy about the incident. I guess it's a disagreement with the definition of "decentralized." I suppose the mods were kind enough to allow it after appeal, but I don't see why they should be involved in the decision. I would expect it to be the minimum functionality to remain.
    - simfree 4y ago

smoldesu 4y ago

It seems they didn't read the rules of the instance: https://octodon.social/about https://octodon.social/about (verbatim:) > 1. i will not be free until everyone is liberated > 2. we will not suffer corporate advertising > 3. spiderule (this is a non exhaustive list)

dibt 4y ago
from a reply: "As for server rules they changed in the 5 years I joined the server. I first joined it in 2017." The surprising thing is that one instance can ban you, which prevents the account from being moved to another instance.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  Posts cannot be moved to other instances even if you are unbanned. You can only redirect your account to other instances, which they appealed for (the moderators obliged) and he's now on another site. You should read the updated thread.

simplotek 4y ago

This tweet is bullshit To start off, the victimized fool was not suspended from Mastodon. The fool tried to join a specific Mastodon instance which is highly political. Here's a link to the instance's about page. https://octodon.social/about https://octodon.social/about > a feminist, anarchist, communist, cyberpunk culture and many trans and queer people, often with tech or scientific interests. > "I'm not Twitter, I'll fuck up nazis, transphobes and bullies for fun". Going into one of these instances publicly presenting yourself as a "capitalist" is a blatant and very transparent attempt at trolling regulars.

wildrhythms 4y ago

Having a laugh at the idea that "Founder of ... the portfolio tracker" and "#etherum developer" joined an openly communist Mastodon server.