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Great Fire Wall which blocks Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Dropbox... However, I think China Government does welcome startups in Shanghai/Beijing with more goodi

Great Fire Wall which blocks Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Dropbox... However, I think China Government does welcome startups in Shanghai/Beijing with more goodies and support than Hong Kong's gov.

samstave 15y ago
Now that HK went back to chinese rule years ago - how is HK not behind the same great FW?
- _delirium 15y ago
  They still have a (somewhat) separate judicial system and government, which results in a considerably freer media and society; for example, many of the newspapers print anti-PRC editorials that wouldn't be allowed in mainland China, and there are open demonstrations on things like the Tiananmen anniversary.
  - samstave 15y ago
    Thanks! I didnt know. I spent 3+ weeks in HK in October of 2000 - but most of that time was partying - so I really didnt learn much about the place whilst there.
  - pyre 15y ago
    Also, IIRC you have to have special papers to travel from mainland China to HK.
- dhkl 15y ago
  The Hong Kong Basic Law stipulates that it will have high degree of autonomy at least 50 years after its transfer to Chinese rule. (ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong) The Hong Kong Telecommunity Authority is, therefore, not required to implement the GFW. Even in China, there are some GFW-free spots. You might find some 5-star hotels giving you unrestricted access to the likes of Facebook, Google+ etc
- latch 15y ago
  Hong Kong and Macau are special administrative regions (SAR). For all intents and purposes, they are independent from China except for two key aspects: military and foreign affairs. They have their own courts, their own law, their own police, their own currency, their own visas, etc, etc, etc. It's known as "one country two systems". The occupy wall street people in Hong Kong are actually camped INSIDE the HSBC HQ building (granted, it's a special open-ground-floor building). But the sense that you get from HK is one of more freedom than the west, not less.

Great Fire Wall which blocks Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Dropbox... However, I think China Government does welcome startups in Shanghai/Beijing with more goodies and support than Hong Kong's gov.

samstave 15y ago

Now that HK went back to chinese rule years ago - how is HK not behind the same great FW?

_delirium 15y ago
They still have a (somewhat) separate judicial system and government, which results in a considerably freer media and society; for example, many of the newspapers print anti-PRC editorials that wouldn't be allowed in mainland China, and there are open demonstrations on things like the Tiananmen anniversary.
- samstave 15y ago
  Thanks! I didnt know. I spent 3+ weeks in HK in October of 2000 - but most of that time was partying - so I really didnt learn much about the place whilst there.
- pyre 15y ago
  Also, IIRC you have to have special papers to travel from mainland China to HK.
dhkl 15y ago
The Hong Kong Basic Law stipulates that it will have high degree of autonomy at least 50 years after its transfer to Chinese rule. (ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong) The Hong Kong Telecommunity Authority is, therefore, not required to implement the GFW. Even in China, there are some GFW-free spots. You might find some 5-star hotels giving you unrestricted access to the likes of Facebook, Google+ etc
latch 15y ago
Hong Kong and Macau are special administrative regions (SAR). For all intents and purposes, they are independent from China except for two key aspects: military and foreign affairs. They have their own courts, their own law, their own police, their own currency, their own visas, etc, etc, etc. It's known as "one country two systems". The occupy wall street people in Hong Kong are actually camped INSIDE the HSBC HQ building (granted, it's a special open-ground-floor building). But the sense that you get from HK is one of more freedom than the west, not less.