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It's honestly a bit shocking it's even made it to the front page.

alphabettsy 4y ago
Weekend HN has more posts by the right-leaning culture warriors. Has been the case for several years at least. Race and Gender related topics seem to be more frequent on the weekends.
- another_story 4y ago
  Just because someone disagrees with you on an issue like this doesn't make them right leaning. Adding on the culture warrior part seems rather childish.
contravariant 4y ago
There's 2 times more comments than minutes since the it was posted, about half of which are flagged, so I don't think this thread has long left.
bavell 4y ago
I have strong opinions on this subject but I don't think it's possible to have a healthy and productive conversation about it in a forum and medium such as this.
- rufusroflpunch 4y ago
  There are some subjects for which it is not possible to have a productive discussion at all anywhere, and this is one of them. This is an ideological difference so strong that it makes it difficult for the opposing views to even share a society.
origin_path 4y ago
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- socialismisok 4y ago
  I've comported myself quite well in this thread, and elsewhere. Please don't generalize about people because they hold different opinions than you. Just because someone is a socialist does not make them a cudgel wielding censor, just like someone being a republican does not make them a fascist. I've had many positive interactions with people in this thread I strongly disagree with. I'd encourage you to be more open minded and not write off people so quickly.
  - origin_path 4y ago
    You're right, you have done pretty well here - I was taking your comment as a jumping off point for a more general theme, it wasn't meant to be a personal attack against you specifically. "Just because someone is a socialist does not make them a cudgel wielding censor" Although it's clearly a true statement in the technical sense - there are surely at least a few people like that - my bitter personal experience has been that people who self identify as socialists are nearly always cudgel wielding censors given half the chance. Are there any countries that both declare themselves to be socialist and yet have a truly free press, and free speech rights? Have there been in the past? I can't think of any. They always have strict state control of what people can say. And so that was my point. You're shocked to see this on HN, and it's not because such stories don't get posted. They do. What happens is, almost always, they get immediately flagged to death. It's not some generalized anti-politics rule or anything to do with the underlying quality of the article either, there's a clear ideological bent to what makes it through.
  - nec4b 4y ago
    >>Just because someone is a socialist does not make them a cudgel wielding censor If you indulge me in a mental experiment. If there would be a person on HN with a nickname "nationalsocialismisok" and claiming him being a national socialist doesn't make him a jew(or other minority) hater. Would you believe them?

Weekend HN has more posts by the right-leaning culture warriors. Has been the case for several years at least. Race and Gender related topics seem to be more frequent on the weekends.

another_story 4y ago
Just because someone disagrees with you on an issue like this doesn't make them right leaning. Adding on the culture warrior part seems rather childish.

contravariant 4y ago

There's 2 times more comments than minutes since the it was posted, about half of which are flagged, so I don't think this thread has long left.

bavell 4y ago

I have strong opinions on this subject but I don't think it's possible to have a healthy and productive conversation about it in a forum and medium such as this.

rufusroflpunch 4y ago
There are some subjects for which it is not possible to have a productive discussion at all anywhere, and this is one of them. This is an ideological difference so strong that it makes it difficult for the opposing views to even share a society.

origin_path 4y ago

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socialismisok 4y ago
I've comported myself quite well in this thread, and elsewhere. Please don't generalize about people because they hold different opinions than you. Just because someone is a socialist does not make them a cudgel wielding censor, just like someone being a republican does not make them a fascist. I've had many positive interactions with people in this thread I strongly disagree with. I'd encourage you to be more open minded and not write off people so quickly.
- origin_path 4y ago
  You're right, you have done pretty well here - I was taking your comment as a jumping off point for a more general theme, it wasn't meant to be a personal attack against you specifically. "Just because someone is a socialist does not make them a cudgel wielding censor" Although it's clearly a true statement in the technical sense - there are surely at least a few people like that - my bitter personal experience has been that people who self identify as socialists are nearly always cudgel wielding censors given half the chance. Are there any countries that both declare themselves to be socialist and yet have a truly free press, and free speech rights? Have there been in the past? I can't think of any. They always have strict state control of what people can say. And so that was my point. You're shocked to see this on HN, and it's not because such stories don't get posted. They do. What happens is, almost always, they get immediately flagged to death. It's not some generalized anti-politics rule or anything to do with the underlying quality of the article either, there's a clear ideological bent to what makes it through.
- nec4b 4y ago
  >>Just because someone is a socialist does not make them a cudgel wielding censor If you indulge me in a mental experiment. If there would be a person on HN with a nickname "nationalsocialismisok" and claiming him being a national socialist doesn't make him a jew(or other minority) hater. Would you believe them?