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> Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, public policy institution based in Washington DC > CEPA’s mission is to ensure a stro

> Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, public policy institution based in Washington DC > CEPA’s mission is to ensure a strong and enduring transatlantic alliance rooted in democratic values and principles with strategic vision, foresight, and impact. Through cutting-edge research, analysis, and engagement, we provide innovative insight on trends affecting democracy, security, and defense to government officials and agencies In other words, it is a US government sponsored, CIA think tank about manipulation of European countries, and CIA/NATO unofficial media publisher.

my_city 4y ago
They provide innovative insights rooted in democratic values though!!!1!1!111 /sarcasm
yucky 4y ago
> In other words, it is a US government sponsored, CIA think tank about manipulation of European countries, and CIA/NATO unofficial media publisher. Makes sense, since that's where the 2014 Ukrainian coup originated too ;)
- mike_k 4y ago
  This is a very bold statement. Care to provide any evidence? I was there. What about you?
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    FYI, the account that you are replying to has a very long track record of pushing this talking point (and other crank opinions), so do not think that you are engaging in a good faith discussion with someone who can be convinced (1) - if they could be, it would have happened long ago. They're here to push that opinion into the public sphere. That account was even banned from posting for a while (2), thankfully. Why it was allowed back, I do not know. 1) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32314627 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32314627 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32990026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32990026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32314574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32314574 2) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32323579 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32323579
    - yucky 4y ago
      See above.
  - yucky 4y ago
    A handful of the countless sources from across the political spectrum: "Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call" - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 "The CIA And FBI Are Reportedly Advising Ukraine As Pro-Russia Separatists Spread Across The Country" - https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-and-fbi-reportedly-advising-ukraine-2014-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-and-fbi-reportedly-advis... "Pierre Omidyar co-funded Ukraine revolution groups with US government, documents show" - https://pandodaily.com/2014/02/28/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-ukraine-revolution-groups-with-us-government-documents-show/ https://pandodaily.com/2014/02/28/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-u... Our use of CIA/State Dept Tech Camp to help foment revolution, video posted by US embassy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpIoBUDuL3U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpIoBUDuL3U (also see this for background on how we use the program elsewhere: https://www.fastcompany.com/1744389/hillary-clintons-senior-tech-advisor-talks-radical-global-citizenship https://www.fastcompany.com/1744389/hillary-clintons-senior-... "Washington Was Behind Ukraine Coup: Obama admits that US “Brokered a Deal” in Support of “Regime Change”" - https://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-was-behind-ukraine-coup-obama-admits-that-us-brokered-a-deal-in-support-of-regime-change/5429142 https://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-was-behind-ukraine-... "How and why the U.S. Government Perpetrated the 2014 Coup in Ukraine" - https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-perpetrated-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine/ https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-go... "In the rapidly worsening Ukraine fiasco, the U.S. is reaping exactly what it sowed" - https://www.salon.com/2022/02/02/in-the-rapidly-worsening-ukraine-fiasco-the-us-is-reaping-exactly-what-it-sowed/ https://www.salon.com/2022/02/02/in-the-rapidly-worsening-uk... "A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War" - https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia... "The 2014 coup in Ukraine" - https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/2014-coup-ukraine https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/2014-coup-ukraine "The United States Is Reaping What It Sowed in Ukraine" - https://progressive.org/latest/us-reaping-sowed-in-ukraine-benjamin-davies-220201/ https://progressive.org/latest/us-reaping-sowed-in-ukraine-b... "Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault" - https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-the-Ukraine-Crisis-Is.pdf https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-t... I don't want to overwhelm you with sources, so this is a good balanced start if you're looking for more information.
- tim333 4y ago
  This stuff is kind of an insult to Ukrainians who protested a bit before that. Do you think this also didn't have something to do with the origin of the change of government: https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-protest-kiev-eu/25193530.html https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-protest-kiev-eu/25193530.htm... ?
  - yucky 4y ago
    It's certainly not meant as an insult to Ukrainians, but it is a fact (see sources listed below).
    - tim333 4y ago
      I maan sure the US encouraged things but the pro Russian president Yanukovych was removed from office by Ukraine's parliament in 328 to 0 vote. Here's a pic of them after the vote https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26304842 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26304842. They look quite cheerful to me and not just forced by the CIA to do it.
      - alushta 4y ago

my_city 4y ago

They provide innovative insights rooted in democratic values though!!!1!1!111 /sarcasm

yucky 4y ago

> In other words, it is a US government sponsored, CIA think tank about manipulation of European countries, and CIA/NATO unofficial media publisher. Makes sense, since that's where the 2014 Ukrainian coup originated too ;)

mike_k 4y ago
This is a very bold statement. Care to provide any evidence? I was there. What about you?
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  FYI, the account that you are replying to has a very long track record of pushing this talking point (and other crank opinions), so do not think that you are engaging in a good faith discussion with someone who can be convinced (1) - if they could be, it would have happened long ago. They're here to push that opinion into the public sphere. That account was even banned from posting for a while (2), thankfully. Why it was allowed back, I do not know. 1) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32314627 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32314627 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32990026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32990026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32314574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32314574 2) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32323579 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32323579
  - yucky 4y ago
    See above.
- yucky 4y ago
  A handful of the countless sources from across the political spectrum: "Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call" - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 "The CIA And FBI Are Reportedly Advising Ukraine As Pro-Russia Separatists Spread Across The Country" - https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-and-fbi-reportedly-advising-ukraine-2014-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-and-fbi-reportedly-advis... "Pierre Omidyar co-funded Ukraine revolution groups with US government, documents show" - https://pandodaily.com/2014/02/28/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-ukraine-revolution-groups-with-us-government-documents-show/ https://pandodaily.com/2014/02/28/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-u... Our use of CIA/State Dept Tech Camp to help foment revolution, video posted by US embassy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpIoBUDuL3U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpIoBUDuL3U (also see this for background on how we use the program elsewhere: https://www.fastcompany.com/1744389/hillary-clintons-senior-tech-advisor-talks-radical-global-citizenship https://www.fastcompany.com/1744389/hillary-clintons-senior-... "Washington Was Behind Ukraine Coup: Obama admits that US “Brokered a Deal” in Support of “Regime Change”" - https://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-was-behind-ukraine-coup-obama-admits-that-us-brokered-a-deal-in-support-of-regime-change/5429142 https://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-was-behind-ukraine-... "How and why the U.S. Government Perpetrated the 2014 Coup in Ukraine" - https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-perpetrated-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine/ https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-go... "In the rapidly worsening Ukraine fiasco, the U.S. is reaping exactly what it sowed" - https://www.salon.com/2022/02/02/in-the-rapidly-worsening-ukraine-fiasco-the-us-is-reaping-exactly-what-it-sowed/ https://www.salon.com/2022/02/02/in-the-rapidly-worsening-uk... "A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War" - https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia... "The 2014 coup in Ukraine" - https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/2014-coup-ukraine https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/2014-coup-ukraine "The United States Is Reaping What It Sowed in Ukraine" - https://progressive.org/latest/us-reaping-sowed-in-ukraine-benjamin-davies-220201/ https://progressive.org/latest/us-reaping-sowed-in-ukraine-b... "Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault" - https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-the-Ukraine-Crisis-Is.pdf https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-t... I don't want to overwhelm you with sources, so this is a good balanced start if you're looking for more information.
tim333 4y ago
This stuff is kind of an insult to Ukrainians who protested a bit before that. Do you think this also didn't have something to do with the origin of the change of government: https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-protest-kiev-eu/25193530.html https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-protest-kiev-eu/25193530.htm... ?
- yucky 4y ago
  It's certainly not meant as an insult to Ukrainians, but it is a fact (see sources listed below).
  - tim333 4y ago
    I maan sure the US encouraged things but the pro Russian president Yanukovych was removed from office by Ukraine's parliament in 328 to 0 vote. Here's a pic of them after the vote https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26304842 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26304842. They look quite cheerful to me and not just forced by the CIA to do it.
    - alushta 4y ago