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he’s changed a lot… he’s lost a massive chunk of the staff to run it. most of the moderation team is entirely gone. engineers have quit by the thousands. if

by toofy 4y ago

he’s changed a lot… he’s lost a massive chunk of the staff to run it. most of the moderation team is entirely gone. engineers have quit by the thousands. if you use two-factor authentication you were entirely locked out of your account. repeatedly i’ve seen entire sections of the website are either 5-10second waits or they just don’t even load at all with nothing but vague error messages. the experience is absolutely not the same as it was a month or a year ago.

AlchemistCamp 4y ago
I use 2FA and haven't been locked out once. I haven't seen the 5-10 second reloads or "vague error messages" you're claiming either. Can you share a link to a specific route where there's something broken?
- toofy 4y ago
  the two-factor problem was widely reported. even twitter's support discussed it. [0][1][2][3][4][5][6] here's a screenshot attempting to load twitter.com/home just 3 minutes ago [7]. these intermittent failures to load have been increasingly happening for me on multiple computers on multiple different networks. if you have been digging into this as much as you imply, you've surely seen the many, many other people discussing this. [0] https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-two-factor-sms-problems/ https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-two-factor-sms-problems/ [1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/twitter-chaos-endangers-public-safety-emergency-managers-warn/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/twitter-chaos-end... [2] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/failures-in-twitters-two-factor-authentication-system.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/failures-in-t... [3] https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1592618615521492992 https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/159261861552149299... [4] https://www.techradar.com/news/live/live-blog-twitter-chaos-whats-going-on https://www.techradar.com/news/live/live-blog-twitter-chaos-... [5] https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/twitter-two-factor-authentication-acting-up-how-to-secure-your-account https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/twitter-two-factor-authenticati... [6] https://www.androidauthority.com/twitter-sms-2fa-3234698/ https://www.androidauthority.com/twitter-sms-2fa-3234698/ [7] https://imgur.com/a/XHiA5ZL https://imgur.com/a/XHiA5ZL
  - AlchemistCamp 4y ago
    > if you have been digging into this as much as you imply, That's a dishonest characterization. I haven't been digging into it at all. I've just been using the site as normal and haven't seen any issues, which is why I'm asking more motivated people (such as yourself) who have been digging, for specifics. I have zero interest in the maelstrom of negative US media coverage, but seeing an actual broken part of the app would have been interesting if you'd been able to provide a link.
    - toofy 4y ago
      oh, my apologies. When i saw your comment...: > What has changed with either, as it impacts a user? I've looked hard but found zero change whatsoever. ...i mistook that to mean you had been looking hard. sorry bout that.
      - AlchemistCamp 4y ago
        I've carefully looked at the app in my own usage, but I'm not going through google news or looking for media write-ups about it as you appear to have been. In the course of tweeting, reading tweets, etc, I've kept an eye open for any kind of breakages / downtime but haven't seen any. Have you personally been locked out of your account due to a 2FA problem or was that just something you read about?
        toofy 4y ago
        i have personally experienced site reliability issues (see my screenshot above where it wouldn't even load the home timeline _at all_) and they seem to be getting more prevalent. i have personally experienced an increase in spam. i have personally experienced a drastic increase in trolls. i have personally seen a _dramatic_ increase of outright abusive accounts. unlike the vast majority of twitter's users, our organization uses physical hardware devices for our 2fa, but after we started seeing the reports, we didn't log out at all--at the time it wasn't clear exactly what was causing the failure, and obviously we didn't want to lose access. i am genuinely glad that you haven't noticed any of the sites problems tho. i truly do hope they can get it back to the sanity it was pre-october. im pretty skeptical on this tho, i tend to think he's set on turning it into some kind of "be shitty to each other" site, and that will obviously turn it into a ghost-town when compared to what it once was.

by toofy 4y ago

AlchemistCamp 4y ago

I use 2FA and haven't been locked out once. I haven't seen the 5-10 second reloads or "vague error messages" you're claiming either. Can you share a link to a specific route where there's something broken?

toofy 4y ago
the two-factor problem was widely reported. even twitter's support discussed it. [0][1][2][3][4][5][6] here's a screenshot attempting to load twitter.com/home just 3 minutes ago [7]. these intermittent failures to load have been increasingly happening for me on multiple computers on multiple different networks. if you have been digging into this as much as you imply, you've surely seen the many, many other people discussing this. [0] https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-two-factor-sms-problems/ https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-two-factor-sms-problems/ [1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/twitter-chaos-endangers-public-safety-emergency-managers-warn/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/twitter-chaos-end... [2] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/failures-in-twitters-two-factor-authentication-system.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/failures-in-t... [3] https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1592618615521492992 https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/159261861552149299... [4] https://www.techradar.com/news/live/live-blog-twitter-chaos-whats-going-on https://www.techradar.com/news/live/live-blog-twitter-chaos-... [5] https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/twitter-two-factor-authentication-acting-up-how-to-secure-your-account https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/twitter-two-factor-authenticati... [6] https://www.androidauthority.com/twitter-sms-2fa-3234698/ https://www.androidauthority.com/twitter-sms-2fa-3234698/ [7] https://imgur.com/a/XHiA5ZL https://imgur.com/a/XHiA5ZL
- AlchemistCamp 4y ago
  > if you have been digging into this as much as you imply, That's a dishonest characterization. I haven't been digging into it at all. I've just been using the site as normal and haven't seen any issues, which is why I'm asking more motivated people (such as yourself) who have been digging, for specifics. I have zero interest in the maelstrom of negative US media coverage, but seeing an actual broken part of the app would have been interesting if you'd been able to provide a link.
  - toofy 4y ago
    oh, my apologies. When i saw your comment...: > What has changed with either, as it impacts a user? I've looked hard but found zero change whatsoever. ...i mistook that to mean you had been looking hard. sorry bout that.
    - AlchemistCamp 4y ago
      I've carefully looked at the app in my own usage, but I'm not going through google news or looking for media write-ups about it as you appear to have been. In the course of tweeting, reading tweets, etc, I've kept an eye open for any kind of breakages / downtime but haven't seen any. Have you personally been locked out of your account due to a 2FA problem or was that just something you read about?
      - toofy 4y ago
        i have personally experienced site reliability issues (see my screenshot above where it wouldn't even load the home timeline _at all_) and they seem to be getting more prevalent. i have personally experienced an increase in spam. i have personally experienced a drastic increase in trolls. i have personally seen a _dramatic_ increase of outright abusive accounts. unlike the vast majority of twitter's users, our organization uses physical hardware devices for our 2fa, but after we started seeing the reports, we didn't log out at all--at the time it wasn't clear exactly what was causing the failure, and obviously we didn't want to lose access. i am genuinely glad that you haven't noticed any of the sites problems tho. i truly do hope they can get it back to the sanity it was pre-october. im pretty skeptical on this tho, i tend to think he's set on turning it into some kind of "be shitty to each other" site, and that will obviously turn it into a ghost-town when compared to what it once was.