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Effective altruism is just nonsense. Giving money "away" is so vague that it's obviously tax discounts. Away to whom? Will give money blindly really help solvin

Effective altruism is just nonsense. Giving money "away" is so vague that it's obviously tax discounts. Away to whom? Will give money blindly really help solving problems or keeps them alive? A lot of questions pop up.

ryanwaggoner 4y ago
That’s a pretty funny take, and suggests you have no familiarity with EA, because it’s explicitly an approach to giving money away while taking exactly these questions into account.
skybrian 4y ago
Are you against all charity then? It's possible to give money away without doing it "blindly."
Emma_Goldman 4y ago
Why are you holding forth on something which you clearly know absolutely nothing about? I say this as someone who thinks that effective altruism is broken.
karpierz 4y ago
It is nonsense, but I don't think this is the right critique. EA is very focused on answering "where should money go". EA is notably less interested in answering "where should money come from" and "what impact does the manner in which I earn money have".
- gruez 4y ago
  >EA is notably less interested in answering "where should money come from" and "what impact does the manner in which I earn money have". Says who? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earning_to_give#Earning_to_give_through_jobs_that_may_cause_harm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earning_to_give#Earning_to_giv...
  - fedeb95 4y ago
    EA seems just a modern rebranding of old ideas which this time around appeals to wealthy individuals because it doesn't challenge their wealth
JamesianP 4y ago
Can someone explain this trick to me. How can I benefit from a tax break on money that I gave away? given that I don't have the pretax money anymore either (you'll recall earlier in the story I gave it away..). Are they giving it to themselves somehow? At best I can imagine they get their name on a school or something, a nice thing but hardly the same as still having the 100 million or whatever bucks in their pocket.

ryanwaggoner 4y ago

That’s a pretty funny take, and suggests you have no familiarity with EA, because it’s explicitly an approach to giving money away while taking exactly these questions into account.

skybrian 4y ago

Are you against all charity then? It's possible to give money away without doing it "blindly."

Emma_Goldman 4y ago

Why are you holding forth on something which you clearly know absolutely nothing about? I say this as someone who thinks that effective altruism is broken.

karpierz 4y ago

It is nonsense, but I don't think this is the right critique. EA is very focused on answering "where should money go". EA is notably less interested in answering "where should money come from" and "what impact does the manner in which I earn money have".

gruez 4y ago
>EA is notably less interested in answering "where should money come from" and "what impact does the manner in which I earn money have". Says who? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earning_to_give#Earning_to_give_through_jobs_that_may_cause_harm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earning_to_give#Earning_to_giv...
- fedeb95 4y ago
  EA seems just a modern rebranding of old ideas which this time around appeals to wealthy individuals because it doesn't challenge their wealth

JamesianP 4y ago

Can someone explain this trick to me. How can I benefit from a tax break on money that I gave away? given that I don't have the pretax money anymore either (you'll recall earlier in the story I gave it away..). Are they giving it to themselves somehow? At best I can imagine they get their name on a school or something, a nice thing but hardly the same as still having the 100 million or whatever bucks in their pocket.