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This is so one-sided, it’s practically propaganda. The author rails against but ONE of the major threats we face in our economic & political systems, while act

This is so one-sided, it’s practically propaganda. The author rails against but ONE of the major threats we face in our economic & political systems, while actively embracing the evil authoritarian beast just across the way. I have a hard time respecting anyone who so easily sacrifices individual liberty in order to chase out the bogeymen of the moment.

campground 4y ago
“…the evil authoritarian beast just across the way” Can you say what this is referring to, because I’ve read the piece and I can’t figure it out.
- camdenlock 4y ago
  Unelected bureaus of experts imposing their own enlightened social vision on a captive citizenry. Doesn’t get much more authoritarian than that.
  - acdha 4y ago
    Can you be more specific, in particular where you think he’s calling for that? For example, he’s praising young people for voting en masse which seems like the polar opposite.
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    I'm curious what is being enforced, from your perspective. I'm familiar with the social conservatives who believe that what the US gov't is doing with regards to marriage amounts to an infringement on their rights. Not sure if that's the argument you are trying to make here.
    - camdenlock 4y ago
      I’m broadly referring to the project of modern progressivism, a tidy summary of which could be: ”We will have an ideal society when we rid ourselves of the unintelligent in our way.”
      - campground 4y ago
        If by “rid ourselves of the unintelligent” you mean improving public education, then yes, that is a goal. It’s a weird way to put it though.
jefurii 4y ago
> This is so one-sided, it’s practically propaganda. What's wrong with that? He's not trying to be a journalist in some mainstream publication (both-side-ism is suspect anyway). You read Stross to get his take on things, from his point of view.
- camdenlock 4y ago
  Suspect how?
  - edent 4y ago
    The cliché is "Someone tells you it is raining. Someone tells you it is sunny. A journalist's job is not to report both sides; it's to look out of the expletive window."
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    The idea that both sides are equally bad. That is demonstrably false.

campground 4y ago

“…the evil authoritarian beast just across the way” Can you say what this is referring to, because I’ve read the piece and I can’t figure it out.

camdenlock 4y ago
Unelected bureaus of experts imposing their own enlightened social vision on a captive citizenry. Doesn’t get much more authoritarian than that.
- acdha 4y ago
  Can you be more specific, in particular where you think he’s calling for that? For example, he’s praising young people for voting en masse which seems like the polar opposite.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  I'm curious what is being enforced, from your perspective. I'm familiar with the social conservatives who believe that what the US gov't is doing with regards to marriage amounts to an infringement on their rights. Not sure if that's the argument you are trying to make here.
  - camdenlock 4y ago
    I’m broadly referring to the project of modern progressivism, a tidy summary of which could be: ”We will have an ideal society when we rid ourselves of the unintelligent in our way.”
    - campground 4y ago
      If by “rid ourselves of the unintelligent” you mean improving public education, then yes, that is a goal. It’s a weird way to put it though.

jefurii 4y ago

> This is so one-sided, it’s practically propaganda. What's wrong with that? He's not trying to be a journalist in some mainstream publication (both-side-ism is suspect anyway). You read Stross to get his take on things, from his point of view.

camdenlock 4y ago
Suspect how?
- edent 4y ago
  The cliché is "Someone tells you it is raining. Someone tells you it is sunny. A journalist's job is not to report both sides; it's to look out of the expletive window."
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  The idea that both sides are equally bad. That is demonstrably false.