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My suggestion.. avoid using a framework for now and learn CSS. Become comfortable with it. Then decide if you need a framework and what framework fills that nee

My suggestion.. avoid using a framework for now and learn CSS. Become comfortable with it. Then decide if you need a framework and what framework fills that need. https://css-for-js.dev https://css-for-js.dev is a good course.

lloydatkinson 4y ago
He wishes to build a series of calculators and tables and your suggestion for some reason is to focus on the styling over the part that will handle the state and logic required for them? Inane.
- mym1990 4y ago
  It seems like your history of comments is just continuously shooting people down for their 'inane' comments. Why not add something productive to the conversation like why you don't think learning CSS should be a priority for this kind of thing?
  - lloydatkinson 4y ago
    Yes, some of this thread has very questionable advice. I already provided a suggestion and rationalised it. It seems you have become annoyed at me pointing this out. Instead of asking me to explain why OP should prioritise styling, why don’t you explain how styling allows OP to build financial calculators? Form over function is not a good thing and I would expect HN readers to understand this?
    - mym1990 4y ago
      Sorry, but it takes a bit more than a snide post on a forum to annoy me haha. The OPs question is very open ended, so what you're seeing is a lot of general answers. Whether you like it or not, form is an essential part of front-end development. The best designs have form AND function, which is understandably a difficult thing to get right. For what its worth, I never said OP should prioritize CSS, you are assuming my stance improperly, something you probably do often. I merely suggested you be helpful and give constructive criticism rather than shoving half an opinion down another's throat.
      - lloydatkinson 4y ago
        > you are assuming my stance improperly, something you probably do often. So you continue the personal attacks then? You say I'm assuming something and yet you indicated the goal of learning CSS was somehow the priority for OP. > I merely suggested you be helpful and give constructive criticism rather than shoving half an opinion down another's throat. I already gave quite an extensive series of steps with numerous possible sub-steps which is helpful. Not sure why that is shoving anything down anybodies throat. Certainly more advice than "go ask frontend engineers you already know" which I imagine OP may have already done but wanted to ask a wider audience. You definitely seem annoyed, especially as it sounds like you're really quite fixated on guessing lots about me. I suggest you re-read HN rules.
      - tomcam 4y ago

lloydatkinson 4y ago

He wishes to build a series of calculators and tables and your suggestion for some reason is to focus on the styling over the part that will handle the state and logic required for them? Inane.

mym1990 4y ago
It seems like your history of comments is just continuously shooting people down for their 'inane' comments. Why not add something productive to the conversation like why you don't think learning CSS should be a priority for this kind of thing?
- lloydatkinson 4y ago
  Yes, some of this thread has very questionable advice. I already provided a suggestion and rationalised it. It seems you have become annoyed at me pointing this out. Instead of asking me to explain why OP should prioritise styling, why don’t you explain how styling allows OP to build financial calculators? Form over function is not a good thing and I would expect HN readers to understand this?
  - mym1990 4y ago
    Sorry, but it takes a bit more than a snide post on a forum to annoy me haha. The OPs question is very open ended, so what you're seeing is a lot of general answers. Whether you like it or not, form is an essential part of front-end development. The best designs have form AND function, which is understandably a difficult thing to get right. For what its worth, I never said OP should prioritize CSS, you are assuming my stance improperly, something you probably do often. I merely suggested you be helpful and give constructive criticism rather than shoving half an opinion down another's throat.
    - lloydatkinson 4y ago
      > you are assuming my stance improperly, something you probably do often. So you continue the personal attacks then? You say I'm assuming something and yet you indicated the goal of learning CSS was somehow the priority for OP. > I merely suggested you be helpful and give constructive criticism rather than shoving half an opinion down another's throat. I already gave quite an extensive series of steps with numerous possible sub-steps which is helpful. Not sure why that is shoving anything down anybodies throat. Certainly more advice than "go ask frontend engineers you already know" which I imagine OP may have already done but wanted to ask a wider audience. You definitely seem annoyed, especially as it sounds like you're really quite fixated on guessing lots about me. I suggest you re-read HN rules.
    - tomcam 4y ago